Early game soviet weapon team spam

Jump back to quoted post31 Oct 2019, 15:53 PMIncendiaryRounds

Maybe u should try to execute the MG42 spam as Ost and report back. You'll get screwed over by the poor setup and pack up times as well as poor traversal speed.

Jump back to quoted post31 Oct 2019, 16:18 PMIncendiaryRounds

"Suppress large group of inf?" More like see your gunner getting repeatedly gunned down by the blob especially since you'll lack spotters for your mgs since you've invested most of your MP into MGs. And using incendiary rounds vs LV is fairly tricky to pull off outside a building. Won't be one shotted by nades? In what way are the MG42 crew more resistant to nades compared to other crews?

Jump back to quoted post31 Oct 2019, 16:26 PMIncendiaryRounds

That's not a spam. He only went for 2 MGs initially and supported decently with agrens. 3+ is a spam. He only got his 3rd mg at the 9 min mark when mg spam is more counterable. By that time MG spam is entirely counterable. Would u call 2mg3gren build an mg spam? And the SU player got what he deserved, he was con spamming (4cons) so Von did what was best against that build - get a 3rd MG. Are u gonna cry about that? Wahhh somebody countered my build order!!!!

Jump back to quoted post31 Oct 2019, 16:53 PMaerafield

dont give me this "bad MG42 unit stats" crap, its a formidable MG

Jump back to quoted post31 Oct 2019, 16:50 PMMr Carmine

Where are your pio,s with bonus vision? You start with them. None of the allies have that. This gives you ample time to supress.

Sov have no real nades without doctrines. Usf and ukf dont tech them mostly. Because that no single allied inf can approach a mg42 frontaly and nade it, means it wont get one shooted with nades very often. And mg42 has teleport on retreat greatly increasing its chances to escape unlike maxims.

Try again.

Jump back to quoted post31 Oct 2019, 17:03 PMIncendiaryRounds

Bruh, if you're spamming MGs it means your MGs outnumber your pios so some of your MGs don't have a spotter. If you use a pio to spot for multiple MGs, it means your MGs are in close proximity to each other meaning, you're using a lot of MP to guard a small area of the map putting you at a large resource disadvantage will the opponent will use that to crush you with tank spam. UKF nade tech is only TEN fuel. Dirt cheap. And who trys to "frontally" nade MGs? It's called flanking. Even if you don't entirely get out of the arc, the 42 has such a poor traversal speed, it doesn't matter sometimes.

tRy aGaiN.

Jump back to quoted post31 Oct 2019, 18:46 PMMr Carmine

So you expect a lone nearly or completly unsupported mg42 to pretty much deal with spread out inf all the time? Its a support unit, you know that right? I should not be alone.

Doesnt matter if the ukf nade is dirt cheap. It does not change the fact that most dont get it an thus almost never gets used. Thus mg42 getting nades less esp frontaly.

Volks can nade frontaly very often. A gren long range rifle nade gets shot before suppression sets in vs a maxim. Both axis have more chance and ability to do so.

The slow tranverse speed is there to balance against its quick suppressen and big aoe suppression. This allows you to use spread out squads against it. Its also lessen the impact of the ap ability.

Jump back to quoted post31 Oct 2019, 18:46 PMMr Carmine

So you expect a lone nearly or completly unsupported mg42 to pretty much deal with spread out inf all the time? Its a support unit, you know that right? I should not be alone.

Doesnt matter if the ukf nade is dirt cheap. It does not change the fact that most dont get it an thus almost never gets used. Thus mg42 getting nades less esp frontaly.

Volks can nade frontaly very often. A gren long range rifle nade gets shot before suppression sets in vs a maxim. Both axis have more chance and ability to do so.

The slow tranverse speed is there to balance against its quick suppressen and big aoe suppression. This allows you to use spread out squads against it. Its also lessen the impact of the ap ability.

Jump back to quoted post1 Nov 2019, 01:00 AM45thPOTUS

and the OP is banned. seems like the mods are just blind ally fanboys.

Jump back to quoted post1 Nov 2019, 01:18 AMgeneral_gawain

Oh man, really?

If you go on page 1 you will see that the posts between #2 and #7 got deleted by mods. OP decided to go mad by using nazi propaganda and terminology here. I hope you don't tolerate that either. Thats the reason he was banned.

(thinking about it you have 4 new posts in total... just by chance you are him personally...)

Jump back to quoted post1 Nov 2019, 00:59 AM45thPOTUS

I'm coming from a team game perspective. As soviet team weapons have a 6 man squad, it's almost impossible to wipe them effectively with nades. Again because they have 6 man squads,it takes a lot longer to force a relocate with mortars which is further hindered by the quick pack up/set up time compared to axis hmgs. I simply don't see how this is fair when u compare Soviet team weapons with allied ones.

A lot of ppl are saying go for light vehicles. Soviet t70 is the best light tank, even the su76 is very formidable if used correctly. This Soviet weapon team spam issue def needs to be looked at.

I mainly play 3v3 or 4v4w

Jump back to quoted post1 Nov 2019, 02:32 AMMr Carmine

The ost mortar has a better barrage and smoke barrage for that reason. They work wonders vs setup teams.

The maxims packup time and setup time have been changed its nowhere near as mobile as before.

The maxims supression and aoe suppression are weaker then most mg,s esp the axis mg,s.

Soviet units with few exceptions are only good when doubled up or even spammed imo. Esp in big game modes. Because flanking in those maps is next to impossible they spamm them.

Jump back to quoted post1 Nov 2019, 06:54 AM45thPOTUS

the maxim set up/pack up time is still way superior compared to axis HMGS.

Jump back to quoted post1 Nov 2019, 08:18 AMmrgame2

I think hans/devm made maxim spam in rail metals during last 2v2 championship. It is still op because of its fast motion and 6 man squad. I dont think maxim is as dastardly as allies try to make up. Just saying.

Jump back to quoted post1 Nov 2019, 08:18 AMmrgame2

I think hans/devm made maxim spam in rail metals during last 2v2 championship. It is still op because of its fast motion and 6 man squad. I dont think maxim is as dastardly as allies try to make up. Just saying.