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[DBP] Cons plus sniper

by Finndeed 9th November 2017, 21:44 PM
Crossroads (2)
Crossroads
  • [00:00:09] Frost z żelaza: oh this map xD
  • [00:00:11] Finndeed: gl hf
  • [00:00:13] Finndeed: :P
  • [00:00:14] Frost z żelaza: glhf
  • [00:00:21] Finndeed: its normally good for OKW
  • [00:00:28] Frost z żelaza: alright, pros doesnt look for a maps tho xD
  • [00:00:37] Frost z żelaza: they are good on every
  • [00:00:40] Frost z żelaza: Kappa
  • [00:00:42] Finndeed: Kappa
  • [00:00:49] Finndeed: shall we play on stalingrad then?
  • [00:00:56] Frost z żelaza: haha
  • [00:01:03] Frost z żelaza: with an apprieciate
  • [00:06:22] Frost z żelaza: Im playing bad this time
  • [00:09:16] Frost z żelaza: what?
  • [00:09:20] Frost z żelaza: a zis?
  • [00:09:24] Finndeed: dank hunters
  • [00:09:30] Frost z żelaza: oh crap
  • [00:21:12] Frost z żelaza: whaaaat
  • [00:21:16] Frost z żelaza: omg
  • [00:21:52] Frost z żelaza: ,,,
  • [00:22:02] Finndeed: its where you press attack the tank
  • [00:22:05] Frost z żelaza: gotta love it
  • [00:22:08] Finndeed: and it goes into FoW
  • [00:22:19] Frost z żelaza: mine goes into fov?
  • [00:22:23] Frost z żelaza: on that sweeper range?
  • [00:22:34] Finndeed: did you press attack my t-34 with ur panther?
  • [00:22:39] Frost z żelaza: no
  • [00:22:45] Frost z żelaza: detonate all the mines
  • [00:22:48] Finndeed: oh
  • [00:22:51] Finndeed: could be that then
  • [00:23:02] Frost z żelaza: didnt think its working like this?
  • [00:23:10] Finndeed: i habve no idea :(
  • [00:26:07] Frost z żelaza: ahaha
  • [00:26:48] Finndeed: missssss
  • [00:30:02] Finndeed: that thing needs a nerf :P
  • [00:30:07] Frost z żelaza: haha
  • [00:30:18] Frost z żelaza: gg
  • [00:30:19] Finndeed: gg
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9 Nov 2017, 21:44 PM
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Cons arent OP, soviets are.
10 Nov 2017, 08:09 AM
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Cons arent OP, soviets are.


Soviets arent OP, the map favours sniper AF.

There is no way how to hide or flank sniper on this map. Try using sniper on a different map like La Gleize, Arnhem, Kholodny or Faymonville.
10 Nov 2017, 08:12 AM
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Soviets arent OP, the map favours sniper AF.

There is no way how to hide or flank sniper on this map. Try using sniper on a different map like Faymonville.


Joke i hope?!:loco:
10 Nov 2017, 08:13 AM
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Joke i hope?!:loco:


Why should it be. Soviets might be over the top right now but surely not because of a sniper.

Every sniper on this map is OP
10 Nov 2017, 08:16 AM
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For me crossroads have more hedges in the middle and 2 house to hide.
For snipers:
like minks, crossing in the woods, halbe, road to kharov and YOUR Faymonville

10 Nov 2017, 08:21 AM
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For me crossroads have more hedges in the middle and 2 house to hide.
For snipers:
like minks, crossing in the woods, halbe, road to kharov and YOUR Faymonville




In faymonville you can hide behind many hedges and garrisons. There is a sight blocker almost everywhere. Also map is more divided into section to ambushing sniper that chosen to switch a side is generally easier.


I do not argue that soviets 8f soviets are OP. I argue because saying soviets are op because of sniper favoured map is a bad argument IMO.
10 Nov 2017, 09:39 AM
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In faymonville you can hide behind many hedges and garrisons. There is a sight blocker almost everywhere. Also map is more divided into section to ambushing sniper that chosen to switch a side is generally easier.


I do not argue that soviets 8f soviets are OP. I argue because saying soviets are op because of sniper favoured map is a bad argument IMO.


I seem to remember Thoedosious beating Luvnest's OST when he was using two snipers vs USF on this map.

Sniper can work on this map indeed, but i think its more the case that La Gleize (a map i always veto) and Kholodny are very bad for snipers, rather than this one very good.

I left an unqualified lazy statement as the opening post coz it was late and i was tired. But, to expand: my worry is that by making cons more effective in combat, you make countering the sniper much, much harder. At the moment you can dodge Penal satchels with a P2 or 222 to chase down a sniper. With Cons, being both combat effective and having Oorah AND AT nades makes countering snipers only possible if your opponent makes a grave mistake.
10 Nov 2017, 09:50 AM
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I seem to remember Thoedosious beating Luvnest's OST when he was using two snipers vs USF on this map.

Sniper can work on this map indeed, but i think its more the case that La Gleize (a map i always veto) and Kholodny are very bad for snipers, rather than this one very good.

I left an unqualified lazy statement as the opening post coz it was late and i was tired. But, to expand: my worry is that by making cons more effective in combat, you make countering the sniper much, much harder. At the moment you can dodge Penal satchels with a P2 or 222 to chase down a sniper. With Cons, being both combat effective and having Oorah AND AT nades makes countering snipers only possible if your opponent makes a grave mistake.


+1 but the same apply to OST sniper against USF. OST sniper can even survive a direct mortar shot ...
10 Nov 2017, 10:37 AM
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I seem to remember Thoedosious beating Luvnest's OST when he was using two snipers vs USF on this map.

Sniper can work on this map indeed, but i think its more the case that La Gleize (a map i always veto) and Kholodny are very bad for snipers, rather than this one very good.

I left an unqualified lazy statement as the opening post coz it was late and i was tired. But, to expand: my worry is that by making cons more effective in combat, you make countering the sniper much, much harder. At the moment you can dodge Penal satchels with a P2 or 222 to chase down a sniper. With Cons, being both combat effective and having Oorah AND AT nades makes countering snipers only possible if your opponent makes a grave mistake.


Making the old saying true: To kill a sniper, you need a sniper.
10 Nov 2017, 11:23 AM
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+1 but the same apply to OST sniper against USF. OST sniper can even survive a direct mortar shot ...


But, grens are comparatively weak in the face of USF infantry, which is the only Allied faction that doesn't have a sniper. Imagine how impossibly overpowered the gren/sniper combo would be if grens could effectively 1v1 Rifles?
10 Nov 2017, 12:59 PM
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But, grens are comparatively weak in the face of USF infantry, which is the only Allied faction that doesn't have a sniper. Imagine how impossibly overpowered the gren/sniper combo would be if grens could effectively 1v1 Rifles?


Cosns can 1v1 Upgraded volks ?
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