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Behind the Battlefield: La Gleize

5 Aug 2016, 07:56 AM
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I love this! Much like my TToH but even better :) Great job guys I am looking forward to more ^^
5 Aug 2016, 08:50 AM
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Great job mate, thanks
5 Aug 2016, 09:31 AM
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DOnt know that relic try do realistic map Kappa. Thanks.
5 Aug 2016, 11:15 AM
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5 Aug 2016, 11:43 AM
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more of this please, another reason why I love coh2.org, you guys are awesome:clap:
5 Aug 2016, 12:35 PM
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Nice work, really nice.
5 Aug 2016, 14:16 PM
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Great read, thanks :thumbsup:

5 Aug 2016, 20:01 PM
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great work. really nice :)
5 Aug 2016, 23:00 PM
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Very well-written article! I love the last part, about how accurate the in game map is to the real locations. Never knew the maps were so accurately modeled. Now, the question is - are there any more maps relic made that are accurate too?

Can't wait for more :)
6 Aug 2016, 08:38 AM
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Guys!!

Thank you so much! The warm response has been really touching. I'm so glad you enjoyed it!

I love this! Much like my TToH but even better :) Great job guys I am looking forward to more ^^


Certainly a great source of inspiration and a model to follow, mèntore. ;)

Very well-written article! I love the last part, about how accurate the in game map is to the real locations. Never knew the maps were so accurately modeled. Now, the question is - are there any more maps relic made that are accurate too?

Can't wait for more :)


Thank you! Yes, it was certainly an eye raising moment for me as well when firing up the google machine and playing around, seeing the town I was a bit taken aback how similar the shape was haha.

Now that I think about it, I seem to recall a Relic dev diary for vCoH outlining how they made Angoville by comparing satellite and street photography as well as blending in historical images. They chose Angoville 'cos of the wealth of material they had available. I think in attitude that also speaks to the developers love of history and the love of the investigation process which has also helped fuel development. It most certainly isn't just a game to them, but a representation of a time period and human history, and to represent it in a way they feel is charitable I think means a lot to the developers. I know we get lost in balance arguments and bugs and things, but I hope a feature like this also spotlights the love and the talent that gets poured into the creation and the detail in the game.

If you have any suggestions for a map that you would like me to investigate, RealName, I would be more than receptive to hearing them. :)

Great job mate, thanks


I'm glad you enjoyed it, and hope we can provide a similar quality of features in the future. Welcome to COH2.org :D
6 Aug 2016, 20:32 PM
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Good stuff. Nice comparison between the minimap and real life overhead view.
7 Aug 2016, 22:03 PM
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If you have any suggestions for a map that you would like me to investigate, RealName, I would be more than receptive to hearing them. :)


I have a suggestion -- Across the Rhine, my favorite map, with its beach and the stone bunkers and all.

Trois Ponts and Moscow Outskirts look like they are based off real life too, they'd be interesting to see.
8 Aug 2016, 14:26 PM
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This is unreal!! Great work turbo and please keep em' coming!
8 Aug 2016, 14:33 PM
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I have a suggestion -- Across the Rhine, my favorite map, with its beach and the stone bunkers and all.


Not sure what the text in the loading screen says, but since this was added with Brits I assumed this is supposed to resemble the Rhine at Wesel, where the UK crossed. In that case, it's purely fictional as you'd have to dig hundreds of meters deep to find anything but sand and mud...
9 Aug 2016, 13:21 PM
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please do more! I love stuff like this!
11 Aug 2016, 14:51 PM
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I have a suggestion -- Across the Rhine, my favorite map, with its beach and the stone bunkers and all.

Trois Ponts and Moscow Outskirts look like they are based off real life too, they'd be interesting to see.



Mmmm! Interesting, Moscow certainly piques my interest, but I run the problem of the Luftwaffe essentially ceasing most aerial reconnaissance past 1941 and/or most of their material is inaccessible.
... not on the Eastern Front.

I found a great archive of aerial imagery here! remarkable for it's use both during and post-war in the hands of the allies, but I do not think it has bee digitized or categorized in anyway that would be accessible unless in person :*(

which actually now brings up the issue of researching Eastern Front locales that may have experienced large degrees of change, such as Moscow. :( I was able to get away with modern imagery for sleepy La Gleize.

Trois Ponts, could be interesting but I would run the risk of covering the same area twice, or even being accused of western front bias haha. I'm going to give Moscow a little more thought though. See if I can't find some imagery.
14 Aug 2016, 16:31 PM
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Cool stuff. Although it's Peiper not Pieper and Greif not Grief I believe.
16 Aug 2016, 10:18 AM
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very nice read! but wtf is "rollbahn" ?? i have never seen this word used in this context, its normally a part of an airport, the part where planes drive to the terminals to be exact :)
18 Aug 2016, 03:43 AM
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jump backJump back to quoted post14 Aug 2016, 16:31 PMSchmitz
Cool stuff. Although it's Peiper not Pieper and Greif not Grief I believe.


MMMM damn it, yeah you're entirely right, I screwed up adding it to my word dictionary. I got it right the first time in the introduction but from then on flopped, oughhh painful. I'll be more careful in my next article

very nice read! but wtf is "rollbahn" ?? i have never seen this word used in this context, its normally a part of an airport, the part where planes drive to the terminals to be exact :)


Yeah, it was new for me as well. In this context in the documents I had cited I think the translation or use was something along the lines of "attack road", or route. I'm not sure of the historical accuracy.

18 Sep 2016, 20:16 PM
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Yeah Peiper's name still shows up wrong all across the piece. Also, the "Tiger 221" photograph shows a Panther, not a Tiger or King Tiger. I'm also not aware of any Tiger Is having been involved in this battle.

Other than that, nice piece. I'm surprised something like this hadn't been done before.
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