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Jump back to quoted post20 Feb 2015, 19:29 PMAlexzandvar

The Command Pz4 is extremely bad against USF, as the Jackson will punish it even harder than it does the Regular Pz4. It's good in the late game for if you have a fuel bloat and want to help entrench a postion, but it's not a main battle tank like the regular PzIV.

The IS2 can kill Pak40's because 1. Pak40's do not have a for sure pen against it from the front, and 2. Things will be follwing the IS2, things with very fast firing high damage weapons.

Double paks are a big MP investment, and how unabashedly fragile they are is insane.

Jump back to quoted post20 Feb 2015, 17:12 PMAlexzandvar

How do you "use" them properly when 1 shell with out warning will instantly kill your squad, and were not talking about a 120 or howitzer shell, we talking a 82 mortar shell or Scott shell. They are very fragile and expensive.



Losing to an IS2 is not a L2P issue, in every stat except ROF the IS2 wins out over the Tiger. The Pak40 can be easily 1 shot by the IS2, infact there isn't a single Ostheer MP based AT unit that isn't shot by a IS2 unless it misses.

And the pak43 is in a fairly shit commander, Command Pz4 is a waste of fuel unless you are floating a shitload (which you shouldn't), smoke is good, hull down it situational, and rail away artillery is a giant waste of munitions in an already munition starved faction.

The elefant is excellent, and comes with 2 good doctrines, Tiger comes with a few good ones (but in the current medium and IS2 spam meta Elefant will always get you more bang for your buck), and every Pak43 commander for Ostheer is just not viable in the current meta.

The Pak43 works for OKW because OKW is based around forward bases and entrenching, Ostheer really can't afford to do that as much with how fragile bunkers are and how expensive the upgrades area.

Ostheer has no reliable counter to IS2 spam except the Elefant, because the fragility of Ostheer infantry and AT weapons. The elefant is mobile (enough) and can take a few shots to the front. The elefant also does well versus medium armor spam, while a Tiger won't get you very far before it's force back again and again.



The DPS in games above 2's gets so high that Ostheer basically becomes a support faction for OKW, just making fuel caches and calling in fuel drops due to the fact instead of 1 horde of riflemen and shocks it's 2 or 3 or god knows 4 hordes of shocks and rifles.

Jump back to quoted post17 Feb 2015, 22:35 PMAlexzandvar

Show me an Ostheer player who uses StuG's and PIV's to counter enemy armor and I'll show you a player I'm about to make my bitch with Jacksons and AT grenades.

Both the Ostheer AT gun and Shrek Platform are extremely fragile, and can be wiped in literally one shot from the basic stock Allied tanks, especially in the case of Pgrens when you can just crush them easily. And in the current ultra-commander dependent meta there isn't a single good Ostheer commander with the Pak43, and a Tiger with support will always lose out to a IS2 with support, or more than a single KV1 with support.

So that leaves us with the Elefant, which is an excellent TD despite the draw backs of it's slow speed and low maneuverability, and the Panther which is gated behind a extremely costly tiering system.

The Jadgpanther (It should be a call in from a commander) would give Ostheer a dedicated medium/heavy leaning TD that while it lacks the shear range of an elefant, has more mobility and a better ROF allowing Ostheer more breathing room.

Jump back to quoted post20 Feb 2015, 08:11 AMJorad

This thread gets better and better.Some people still miss the fact that a single volks unit with a shreck assisted by a King Tiger can stall one VP for quite a while, two Frigin units. While as USF u need to bring a Sherman with HE and hope that he will snipe that volk and wipe him with one shot so you can try to capture the vp and again hope that this unit wont get wiped by the KT.