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Thread: reasoning for putting a flak gun on the OKW base building?4 Mar 2015, 20:08 PM Jump back to quoted post4 Mar 2015, 20:03 PMmedhood Im sure anything I said earlier was the truth on how units perform and I gave countless viable counters against okw trucks both that I use and used against me while out of my group of friend I use okw the most they found my obers overpowered and wouldnt let me use okw for a while s they wanted "revenge" and in our next 1v1s I did my best to adept I found smoke and double sided attacks effective against the ones who arnt idiots (the normal ones know the game mechanics and try to use cover and tactics the idiots would charge their obers through red cover and just lose them) now Im sure this went off topic cause we are arguing about obers when its about the flak truck as it says in the title I have fun with the game I had 330 hours of fun on it I may not know everything but I know enough to get me through Im just another average player trying to help you out at the end of the day the biggest difference is how you control you units and what you do with them but trust me if you have trouble with flak trucks just used the tactic used on you to find its weakness keep on abusing it until someone beats you then use what that guy did to you You obviously dont know what's the problem. 1. SU have no problems with dealing with flak base. 2. USF have problems. No AT Gun or no HMG. 3. Smoke+2demo. Count how many ammo this is. 4. Now think about spending that amount of ammo to counter a bulding. 5. CoH2 is about capping points. You can't cap if there is flakbase 6. Flakbase was deisgned to defend point with 200% income. This feature no longer exists. 7. 8. 9.... And many many other points why flak base should not be in current form but right now Im going to watch Liverpool - Burnley In: COH2 Balance
Thread: reasoning for putting a flak gun on the OKW base building?4 Mar 2015, 20:04 PM Jump back to quoted post4 Mar 2015, 19:54 PMAlexzandvar Because that's how the game was designed OKW commanders focus on augmenting your play style by filling holes in your unit roster, Ostheer commanders focus on improving your own units. Then you must decide if commander are designed to counter stock units or to fill holes or improve units. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: reasoning for putting a flak gun on the OKW base building?4 Mar 2015, 19:53 PM Jump back to quoted post4 Mar 2015, 19:51 PMmedhood Im sure infantry cant shoot at whats behind them when their backs are turned and if you force em off doesnt the enemy I also feel honored that you check my stats and I apologize for buying the game cause I wanted to play with my friends as we all had so much fun together on Company of Heroes 1 and we just needed another game to fight each other on so badly And you should you apologize me? Go, play, have fun like everyone. Just don't teach others something you dont know, like gold thought that Guards or Grens can shoot on the move as well as Obers. Learn the game first. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: reasoning for putting a flak gun on the OKW base building?4 Mar 2015, 19:44 PM Jump back to quoted post4 Mar 2015, 19:26 PMmedhood Its a demo thats useful for killing the truck that you are complaining about and obers definitely have their advantage but you rarely see more than 2 unless its a team game you also have riflemen who have their smoke grenades for 15 munitions that can stop obers or the flak truck shooting at you forcing the oberkommando west player to move up his obers and out of cover which they are probably in, you have countless players giving you advice yet you dont try any of it if you wanna know how to counter the thing then why dont you play as oberkommando west in 1v1 and do what they do to you and see how other players counter it Said guy who has 1 1v1 as OKW It's not a problem to use smoke from Sherman and put 2 demos. It's just how expesinve it is. You rarely see more then 2 Obers. Maybe you dont know, but you rarely see more than 2 Paras. Stop Obers from what? They will till smoke ends and what's more, smoke is useless vs them. For example, vs Grens, it forces them to move. While moving they can't use LMG. Obers just laught at smoke. Cause it forces them to go back like Grens but they still can shoot while moving with 75% of DPS. How you can give any advices someone who is playing this game more and Im sure someone who is better. Come on, even 4v4 AT as Axis is difficult for You. Jump back to quoted post4 Mar 2015, 19:30 PMAlexzandvar No, it's not. The game was literally designed around using doctrine units to counter stock units. Do you think the commander system exists just for shits and giggles? Nope. They can help to deal with stock units but all factions have counter in stock units. Commanders are hard counters for other commanders. B4? Stuka. IS2? Elephant. ISU? Elephnat and on... and on... It's not like Pz4? IS2. SU85? Elephant T34/76? Tiger. It's not like that. It's helpful but you have everything in tiers to counter other tiers. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Relic, hold-fire button please & better priority4 Mar 2015, 19:23 PM There you go. 10:30 - 10:54 0 VS ~TAB~ Urmel ~TAB~Australian Magic Incredible FaHu Fridod Switching target by: Australian Magic map: Vaux Farmlands 1 - Im guy who is clicking something manytimes, so wne Puma shows up again I attacked immediately. Still switched to raketen. Besides that we still won so my rage was not that big. In: COH2 Gameplay
Thread: Switching target4 Mar 2015, 19:20 PM For thread purpose. In: Replays
Thread: reasoning for putting a flak gun on the OKW base building?4 Mar 2015, 19:12 PM Jump back to quoted post4 Mar 2015, 19:06 PMmedhood I'd rather paras they get to plant demo charges can be upgrade to either be good in close combat or long range combat can reinforce at the relay beacons while obers are just good at shooting infantry that are running at them It's demo with timer. It's useful only to destroy trucks. Obers don't need close range DPS since they melt everything before something reaches them. But still you can get STGs. With STG they are Shocks+Grens at once. Beacon? Really? This is advantage? Just good at shooting infantry? And Paras are good vs vehilces? Go back to the game because you don't have much experience right now. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: reasoning for putting a flak gun on the OKW base building?4 Mar 2015, 18:59 PM Jump back to quoted post4 Mar 2015, 18:50 PMmedhood Paras get 2 lmgs from their lmg upgrade aswell as an ability to surpress with the said mgs the paras also have 2 extra men in their squad And what's the point of that? Suppress? You mean the ability during which Paras are damn vulnerable? 2 LMGs? So...? 2 extra men.. Great. I would change Pras for Obers anytime. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: reasoning for putting a flak gun on the OKW base building?4 Mar 2015, 17:45 PM Jump back to quoted post4 Mar 2015, 16:52 PMAlexzandvar Then the other player must be broken in the head because 3 Schwers is over 300 fuel and a single Panther on top of that is 227.5! Did this game like over an hour? And yes you need to take a commander to beat a unit. Either quit bitching about it or stop playing the game because commanders exist for a reason. Soviets are entirely designed around them, and USF commanders are mostly shit, but some are very good (Aiborne/Recon/Infantry). Not building. Its ok to unit doctrine to counter doctrine but doctrine vs stock, not to mention buidling is broken. Jump back to quoted post4 Mar 2015, 16:53 PMwandererraven other lmg dp-28 and mg42 0.75 dps on move too I belive Guards and Grens can't use LMGs while moving. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Relic, hold-fire button please & better priority4 Mar 2015, 17:21 PM Jump back to quoted post4 Mar 2015, 17:08 PMPorygon If you right click on the Puma with your AAHT, it MUST chase it and attack it in his LOS, that's always true. So in your case, there are only these happened, 1) You used A move, so it attack the Raketen. 2) Puma is out of its range and got out of the LOS. 3) You clicked on the ground, so it choose the Raketen. Either 3 options are the OKW player did his job great and you screwed up, period. It happens in COH1 too, if the Panther got out of the range of M10 and a Pak38 or a Gren is in its range, of course he would shoot the Pak or Gren. However, it is least likely happening because M10 speed > Panther. I almost never use A-move It was in range cause I commanded to attack and AA was not moving, only turret. No ground attack. I attacked and then revesring all the time chasing Puma. In: COH2 Gameplay