That obviously must mean the pak is completely ineffective, right?
Positioning is obviously a big part in it. AT guns are "tank snipers" and use them as such, not a frontline unit, back line unit supporting from afar.
I find it hilarious that you even try to defend your case here and don't see how silly it is.
Katitof, it was you who made the argument that the cost of a unit should determine its effectiveness vs. another unit, not me. Thank you for realising it was a stupid argument.
In any case, it would be great to see a response from PQ on this.
It seems that soviet abuse and rape strats are back and germans can't do shit (again). Also scouting, flanking and ambushing WILL NEVER WORK on maps like Moscow and Minsk, don't even mention 3v3 and 4v4.
From what I heared and experienced I compleatly agree that the ISU-152 is a gamebreaker unit unless a,it's a anti-ISU map (Stalingrad) b,you have Ele and nerves to counter it.
Please stop making generalisations. We're talking about a specific unit here, let's keep doing that.
I will be talking mainly about 2v2, because the Elefant and ISU152 are not really viable for 1v1. (The last time i used or saw an elefant somewhat competitive in 1v1 was in the good old SU85 days)
The ISU152. The main concept of instagibbing squads from 100 range is very bad. It removed the option of retreat and makes the survival of squads completely RNG dependent. The only units that matter at that point are tanks or artillery. Infantry and support weapons become obsolete.
There are many ways to address this problem, but i would like to see the AI decreased first. Even though it's a big howitzer and from a realistic standpoint it feels right to destroy everything, the gameplay suffers. Similar to sniper spam, you are forced to get the hardcounter / Elefant to fight it efficiently.
And yes, i would say flanking an ISU152 (or Elefant) with tanks is not a reliable option against competent players.
This. AI performance needs to be mediocre at best on the ISU. Instagibbing from 100 range does not belong in this game.
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