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Thread: Aftermath Update Impressions Thread20 Feb 2014, 00:46 AM Damage that's close to unupgraded Penals without flamers. It's already been discussed thoroughly, but (identity crisis stricken) Penals cost too much for their worth. Grens are huge utility unit too after building T1 and upgrading Battle Phase. Molotovs/AT Grens have to be researched too. There's no such thing as early PPSH cons. It's a mid game upgrade; which halftracks, scoutcars, pgs have already hit the field. PPSHCons, like AssGrens, have to get close to do any semblance of damage. I've never seen a non vetted PGren get wasted by them. Unupgraded Grens maybe. A PG can nearly stand toe to toe with Shocks because their DPS is higher. Cons have 1 armor and half the amount of PPSHs as Shocks. I've never seen them win against PGs. In: Lobby
Thread: 7CP 2x T34/85 and 9CP 1x T34/8519 Feb 2014, 23:31 PM I'd kill for a blitzkrieg like ability, especially as a flanker. Then this might actually be valid: which can now match this: It'll be like childhood, watching a bunch of micro machines zoom about. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Aftermath Update Impressions Thread19 Feb 2014, 21:16 PM Jump back to quoted post19 Feb 2014, 21:09 PMwooof in other words, youre SUPPOSED to be building t3 or t4. the strategy of saving that teching cost to spam more call ins is exactly what relic wanted to address. Sure, which you could do at 8CP too, same as the KV1 CP requirement. They serve similar roles now as support to SU85/Infantry/ATG (damage dealer, or damage supporter each with it's own caveat). Exception being that a KV1 would last longer in the field than a T34/85 respectively. In: Lobby
Thread: Aftermath Update Impressions Thread19 Feb 2014, 21:12 PM Eh? Used the Advanced Tactics commander moments ago and the strafing run is a fraction of the deadliness of what it used to be. Ex: it no longer squad wipe, the mortar halftrack it targeted didn't gloriously explode (not sure if penetration value was adjusted), but it dealt a significant amount of damage to the Pio and MG close to it without wiping them. It's now decent for it's cost and not grinningly awesome(or horrifying) as it used to be. In: Lobby
Thread: Rank//Removal of Stars19 Feb 2014, 21:02 PM I always check the steam COH profiles of my opponents and allies while ingame when my units are building to see what I'm up against. It doesn't gives you an early impression as to the experience (not skill) of the players like the banners during loading, but you get an impression of what to expect pretty early. 1. Get in game 2. Toggle Player List 3. Check Profile 4. Profit! In: Lobby
Thread: Aftermath Update Impressions Thread19 Feb 2014, 20:52 PM Jump back to quoted post19 Feb 2014, 20:34 PMCruzz ppsh spam: more powerful than it has ever been since the HTD nerf, and now shows that power with or without HTD. So much fun to play against combined conscripts with all your inferior units as germans again while trying desperately to get a vehicle out. They come in at 3CP, the same time or even after PGs and vehicular counters hits the field. They're only an issue if you fight them head on with a vanilla Gren unit. They're like Penals, but more lethal close range as opposed to far range. Still skeptical about the 222 nerf, they weren't that big of an issue on either side, I loved and feared the FHT more attacking or being attacked with infantry. More and more I play with T34/85 commanders...i'm even more [overzealously] convinced 9CP is way too late. Had several matches where I see multiple stugs, or ostwinds, or p4s hit the field 5min+ earlier before a T34/85 hits the field. Coupled with the long recharge time, you're forced build T3 or T4 to have any armored presence on the field. Should be 8CP like the KV1. In: Lobby
Thread: Aftermath Update Impressions Thread19 Feb 2014, 07:57 AM Yeah, I was hoping they'd implement the proposed halftrack reinforcement nerf they called out during SNF. Doesn't make sense for any upgraded halftrack to retain that ability. Jump back to quoted post19 Feb 2014, 07:40 AMspajn why is soviets upgrade so cheap anyways? soviet is never munition starved. That's a myth. Abilities (button, molotovs, AT/Smoke/Frag grenades, callin strikes), upgrades, and most importantly...mines drain the Soviets in the long run. Mines are one of only paltry amount of effective AT weapons against late game Ost. Without munis and mines, Soviets are just there be to ROFLstomped. In: Lobby
Thread: 7CP 2x T34/85 and 9CP 1x T34/8519 Feb 2014, 06:30 AM Will probably need to play a few more games, but got thrown into a 6 player teammatch through automatch (somehow easier than getting 2v2...automatch takes much longer than it used to, early battle server woes) and the T34/85 comes in really late. Won the game on Steppes, but I had 2 CPs left before I could get the T34 when 2 P4s, 2 Panthers were already roaming the field (they fuel cached immediately). My ATguns and AT grenades were the only saving grace that prevented any capping power potential and kept them concentrated on one area. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Aftermath Update Impressions Thread19 Feb 2014, 04:41 AM Jump back to quoted post19 Feb 2014, 03:36 AMLosttruppen Osttruppen have half the capping speed of regular units, and Assault grens are quite expensive at 320mp so there won't be many. Not really, AssGrens are cheaper to field than penals or snipers. I can get 2 Assgrens onto the field before I build T1, cap some points, then dominate the conscript/engie or engie/MG combo that I might face. My 320 AssGren can give 360 Penals a run for it's money (and vice versa). I'm also utterly surprised they haven't patched the Windows 8.1 compatibility issue. It doesn't ruin the game experience...but it sure is a nuisance. BTW: Servers are up! In: Lobby
Thread: Aftermath Update Impressions Thread19 Feb 2014, 03:12 AM Jump back to quoted post19 Feb 2014, 03:01 AMWhat Doth Life?! Yes. All changes are three posts above you. Which is disappointing. They're able to hit the field and cap territories much faster than Soviets because they don't require a building. They should've been bumped up to 1CP to even the playing field. Jump back to quoted post19 Feb 2014, 03:11 AMferrozoica So... has the damage on the new IL-2 also been decreased or is it just the old one? I'm pretty sure it's a universal change to how the IL-2 functions. The new one for the Advanced Warfare Tactics just has a script that prevents it from loitering. In: Lobby

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