Aftermath Update Impressions Thread

Jump back to quoted post19 Feb 2014, 19:23 PMTristan44

Lol I love how people say this forums is pro axis and pro soviet. So much talking out of your ass and nubs discussing balance.

Jump back to quoted post19 Feb 2014, 19:29 PMwooof

notice he said it can SUPPORT a defense against a t70. it obviously cant solo it. the 222 has a 63% chance to pen the front, or 100% from the back, so it can do some pretty good damage against the t70. also, since it shoots 5-7 shots in a 2.5 second burst, the t70 will barely take 2 shots in that time. so if you can get behind it, you could take about 1/3 of the t70s hp for 1/2 of the 222s hp.

Jump back to quoted post19 Feb 2014, 19:45 PMImagelessbean

Hunting downs kats...I have never seen that work. Doesn't everyone put their kats behind their su85's? And if I have kats I also went guards, so...

Jump back to quoted post19 Feb 2014, 14:03 PMBravus

Look that balance, get better, but not the ideal, conscripts assault package 10 mun (with 6 smg's) (lol!!!!!!) now is 30 with 3, but for grens get 2 rifle or 1 lmg is 60 mun....

Jump back to quoted post19 Feb 2014, 19:52 PMwooof

really? this was incredibly easy to do. no one ever said the 222 has to get out alive
you just find a hole in the defense and sneak over to the kats. sometimes you get unlucky and run into cons/guards, but for the price, its worth the risk.

ill admit this will be harder to do now though since a single 2.5 second burst will no longer kill a katyusha. now youll have to keep the 222 near the kat for the 4 second cooldown + part of the 2nd burst. the same goes for killing m3s.

Jump back to quoted post19 Feb 2014, 20:13 PMsluzbenik

Yes, that's exactly what you'd do. It's insanely cheap, if you know where the katy is, it's going to be worth sacrificing the 222 to zip around around back, even into their base, and kill a Katyusha. It kills them almost instantly.

Jump back to quoted post19 Feb 2014, 20:23 PMPingPing

And you think it'd make it?

Also - just one Con with an AT nade near that Kat and your 222 is toast.

Jump back to quoted post19 Feb 2014, 18:51 PMpqumsieh

Just a few points to hopefully clarify the intents behind some of the changes.

First, commanders are not meant to overshadow the core army or its tech. They were designed to supplement the player's army rather than define it.

Jump back to quoted post19 Feb 2014, 20:30 PMwooof

considering my friends and i do it quite often, and im sure noise has as well, the answer is yes, the 222 will make it. he most likely wont get out alive, but thats a very good trade for the germans.

im not sure what makes you think a p4 push will be more successful than a 222. the p4 is slower, a lot more obvious, and much more expensive, so its riskier. the soviet will just reverse his kat into his base when he sees a p4 trying to hunt it down. then you run into cons/guards and you have 115 fuel stuck behind enemy lines

Jump back to quoted post19 Feb 2014, 20:39 PMPingPing

I have to say it's impressive if you can pull that off.

BUT

If that's the only purpose a 222 can do - i.e. a counter to an equally poorly pathed - yet T4 unit - and the 222 is a T2 that SHOULD be able to counter T1/T2 units rather than just a niche T4 counter....I call that a pretty much useless unit.

Jump back to quoted post19 Feb 2014, 20:34 PMCruzz

ppsh spam: more powerful than it has ever been since the HTD nerf, and now shows that power with or without HTD. So much fun to play against combined conscripts with all your inferior units as germans again while trying desperately to get a vehicle out.