I usually build one or maybe two to upgrade with schrecks to assist my units with AT, and i usually leave one behind cover to guard a lone VP/random point. It usually works as it wipes conscripts, CE, guards that get a moved to the point and are completely forgotten. I also found out that grenadiers are immune to suppression if they are in green cover...
That is just some deranged person's alt account, the behavior is recognizable. The panzergrenadier is not useless, but it will never be your mainline infantry. At best, it fills a decent AT/AI supporting role. I was playing a game where i advanced fast Stug-PzIV-Tigers, with 3 LMG grenadiers for support, and i used my panzershrecked panzergrenadiers squad to follow the main force's advance. It ended up wiping out a retreating conscript squad, taking out a reversing su-85 on its own, and scare and assist in killing 2 t34's hunting down my 5% health Tiger. That is its current role in all my games.
It's not that, it's that Soviets are fundamentally flawed and still need to be fixed somehow. I don't know how, but they need it. M3 spam is not fun, Sniper spam is not fun, Maxim spam is not fucking fun. Not to play with or against, it's bullshit.
Yes ur right,because it can dmg from long range it won't have as much trouble as pzgren.
But same armor as a gren model?Maybe more health instead of armor.
They are paratroopers, not juggarnauts. No armor and same health as all infantry models.
Wonder if the scopes are upgradeable or inherent...and if they are upgradeable how they change performance.Others things to watch out are it reinforce cost and armour..if armour is too low and reinforce too high..pzgren like problem.If armour too high -problem..reinforce too low-people will start using blobs as standard infantry-problem.
The fg42 was always used scoped. Probably no armor, high cost to deploy, and a high reinforce cost. The thing is, it does everything; it has a bundled nade for displacing units in cover, panzerfaust for stalling armored units, and a toxic smoke grenade to deny cover and block LoS. It also does not have the panzergrenadier problem - if a conscript squad charges an fallshirms and they are both in no cover, the falshirmjagers, in theory, should demolish the conscripts before they get close to damage it, and the fallshirmjagers should suffer no losses. fg42's should have stg44 dps at a much longer range.
Something was said about fallshirmjagers - they do come with fg42's. The benefit of OKW is that assault rifles and machine guns are standards. I read a little about it, the German forces of the Battle of the Bulge were equipped with many stg44's and panzerfausts.
And the fact that the fg42 was used exclusively by german paratroopers.
No,u didn't answer my question..with what do u push?Pz 4?
Early game..cuddle together and stay in cover lest the flamer in m3 roasts u.Late game cuddle together under protection of paks and shrecks with ur pz 4s lest soviet armour gets u..is this a way to play?It just feels restrictive and limited.
Pz 4s may be viable..against t-34s good.Against anything else u need to be very careful and need support units.Now u want that to be ur standard lategame armor vs t-34/85s.shermans,isu and is-2...i just don't see ur thing.Unless panther is revived u just can't hold out against those with pz 4s alone.Now maybe u have godly micro..and Op synergy...but humble little me is not that good.Fine go ahead declare me noob and L2P..lets see what happens once tiger is nerfed and germans have to rely solely on pz 4s.Mark my words if tiger is nerfed and is-2 buffed even with isu nerf, without corresponding changes in soviet medium call ins and panther staying where it is..u'll see total collapse of ostheer armor lategame next patch.
Anyways, you did list every soviet tank that costs more than a pz IV, so it wouldnt be suprising if something expensive kills something cheaper. Hopefully the release of WFA fixes some things. I referenced m3's are too difficult to counter conventionally, ISU destroys all Ostheer tactics, and hopefully Relic does something which makes German T4 overall more appealling. Not saying go back to the days of rushing t4 and first tank as panther, but somehow allow investing in t3 can have a better chance of getting t4. Investing in t4 alone makes you lose, and you have to forget t4 when you start protecting yourself with t3. And katyusha and panzerwerfer are currently terrible.
Yeah,yeah always stay on the defensive..desperately hold back soviet armor wave.U think u can push with paks?U think people actually build more than 1 shrecks pzgrens that die to 2 shots.U can hold out with paks,shrecks and pz 4s defensively for a while if ur placement is good .Ur never going to push with it..for that u need tanks.
Tiger was the tank that could push..the last german tank that could do that.Try pushing with ur pz 4s vs 85s,shermans,is-2 and 152.
Well, then you dont know how to play Germans. Combined arms only fails to ISU's one shotting and abused soviet early game dominance.
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