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Thread: [Winter Balance Update] OKW Feedback10 Dec 2020, 09:23 AM Jump back to quoted post10 Dec 2020, 09:18 AMSgtJonson After trying it out a little. I misunderstood the change. FRP is still optional and i find that good. But making it Battlegroup upgrade mandatory for STG might be a bummer. Maybe make it medic OR btg-upgrade necessary for stg. It feels so late - but i can clearly see that the earlier mg helps alot to compensate that edit: overall okw feels a lot more flexible to play. thank you for that! Timing of weapon upgrades doesn't change. Its just availability of medics that got improved. You're not supposed to have STGs by 2nd minute. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: [Winter Balance Update] SOV Feedback10 Dec 2020, 08:37 AM Jump back to quoted post10 Dec 2020, 00:25 AMVipper The is Penal are expected to fill too many roles. Whooping 2 of them. Like many, many other units from all factions in game. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: [Winter Balance Update] General Discussion10 Dec 2020, 08:36 AM Jump back to quoted post10 Dec 2020, 04:06 AMmrgame2 seems the new version have power creep You don't know what you're talking about, as usual and let me help you with that. su76 needs range decrease from 60 to 55 with it new speed and mobility No, it doesn't. Its the only TD that didn't had mobility/survivability related vet. It was brought up in line with others. command bunker can be upgraded twice or pay once for both? neither is necessary That I agree with, allowing both isn't going to encourage med outside of base or command at all. 3 ptrs will kill ost lv phase and zone out luch 2 PTRS already do that. why IS needs lee upgrade? seems an automatic choice with its buff. That's a downgrade. It takes upgrade slot AND weapon slot. Its a MASSIVE downgrade. churchill rear armor nerf make sense, but extra vickers? what for.. Because its AI isn't good enough. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: why not nerf pathfinder？9 Dec 2020, 20:55 PM Jump back to quoted post9 Dec 2020, 20:49 PMVipper If you want to take part in this debate just start by responding to simple question, in your opinion do Pathfinder and I&R Pathfinder gain veterancy at the same rate as other units or faster/slower? In my opinion they get veterancy as fast as the utility unit with bad DPS in contrast to mainline it supports should. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: why not nerf pathfinder？9 Dec 2020, 20:41 PM Jump back to quoted post9 Dec 2020, 15:10 PMVipper Then I have to point out: ΧP value of unit was original tied to the cost of unit and not its DPS That is old design and it doesn't apply for 6 years now, since this is when first exceptions started appearing. It applied exclusively to vanila eastern front. All of the cost changes without vet req changes over the years also prove that this is not only a weak argument, its laughable one. In game the Pathfinder gain veterancy way faster the pioneer and Penals and get access to powerful vet bonuses. Probably the unit gain veterancy faster than any other unit. Powerful vet bonuses to weak base stats result in ok vetted stats, not op unit. I also have to point out that apart from the combat performance both Pathfinders also have bring utility. Neither extra sight nor anti bunker ability helps win engagements. And what is your opinion about I&R Pathfinder that come with 3 paras carbine and one scoped. Because they have the same XP value? What's wrong with them now? The same reasoning applies here. They are not JLI, they are not independent infantry capable of fighting and beating opposing mainlines. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: [Winter Balance Update] OKW Feedback9 Dec 2020, 12:56 PM Why do you argue me? I didn't said it comes too early. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: [Winter Balance Update] OKW Feedback9 Dec 2020, 12:48 PM Jump back to quoted post9 Dec 2020, 12:47 PMOlfin I think u miss understand the changes. The tier4 still require to fully upgrade BG so it still the same. MG34 is the weakest mg in the game and it is already an issue for OKW because it came too late to counter blobs and it fix the un diverse and predictable OKW early game. MG34 is weakest in damage only, its suppression is exceptionally good for its price, being only slightly worse then that of 42. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: [Winter Balance Update] SOV Feedback9 Dec 2020, 12:09 PM Jump back to quoted post9 Dec 2020, 12:02 PMVipper Alpha damage AT weapon means little practise when it comes to infatry unless one has enough damage to finish off the vehicle, since the can move away and repair. Alpha damage is NOT for finishing vehicle. Its in the fucking name. Alpha - first - initial. Its role is to deter vehicle from comiting to the fight. PTRS is NOT alpha damage deterent, never was and will not be even with the change. AT satchel is. In addition PTRS gain an "Alpha" bonus in the patch with reduction of time before firing. Incorrect, because they can still, at the very most deal 120 dmg on the first volley and its extremely lucky on actual tanks to achieve that. That's not what alpha strike is. Alpha strike is high frontal damage. They don't do that. The aim time decrease puts them in line with other AT weapons, it doesn't magically makes their shot inflict massive initial damage on a tank. Accuracy hardly effect their AT capability (already shot will always hit) but it does effect their AI capability. And their AI capability is completely unchanged compared to current live version, which no one uses for AI or blobbing, despite you claiming everyone would. Most other units do not turn into AI/AT blobs. And PTRS penals are no exception here. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: mainline infantry9 Dec 2020, 11:22 AM Jump back to quoted post9 Dec 2020, 11:11 AMVipper Or we can stop increasing the pace of the game by lowering the cost of tech and bundling things up while decreasing the window of opportunity of unit in the process. Or we can simply get rid of anachronical design that stopped being relevant 5 years ago and make it fit current balance and pace. If Soviet have trouble vs light vehicles than it those light vehicles that should be delay or their power level decreased than adding yet another buff to mainline infantries. Its basic mainline infantry tools. Other 4 factions can get them earlier/cheaper/are more effective. Delaying lights will not change the fact that molotov is a piece of shit upgrade prior to vet2. AT nades are being researched before T3 anyway every single time when you go with at least 3 cons and not a single axis LV needs to get into their range to be effective, so you're losing nothing. In: Lobby
Thread: [Winter Balance Update] SOV Feedback9 Dec 2020, 09:33 AM That's not aura, that's fucking doctrinal global buff. You need to learn what auras are. In: COH2 Balance