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see pack howi vet 2, 20+ kills
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I can list every stock tank that has a chance to bounce standard AT guns (180 pen at max range) and the data wouldn't do your argument well. It's true indeed the allies have some more durable armour doctrinal, but they are significantly limited in access. The okw for example has more units stock that bounce standard AT than usf has total that can bounce it. Soviet, whome have the largest selection of doctrinal heavy Armour only match okws stock armour count for tanks that can bounce AT guns at max range, and they are all exclusive with one another.
The claim that most axis armour has a higher armour value is extremely true, even when considering doctrinal armour. Doubly so when you consider accessibility. You are guaranteed to fight a tank that will bounce AT shots when facing the okw, and highly likely from ost (if my Stat memory serves even a vetted stug has a very tiny chance to bounce)
Its a very valid claim.
well thats they the allied ATG meta exists |
Doctrinal commander, 180 muni ability to destroy LEFH (+50 from recon sweep = 230) and Priest is mobile, not an arty emplacement. It barrages and relocates, what its intended to do.
Sexton you have to drive close to reach arty emplacements (1v1/2v2 maps not so close but anything higher and good luck countering it with a mobile arty piece)
Nobody will ever use counter barrage from advance emplacements commander cause nobody uses that commander.
Only offmaps UKF have are Barrage from advance emplacement commander (once again, nobody good will EVER use that) and concentration barrage, which like you said, needs to risk a vehicle to get vision just to call it in.
Dude, I'm talking about Recon abilities . See how I made it big and bold for your blind ass to see? If you want to talk about balance, this isn't the thread for it.
And easy to counter priest/sexton. Just dive or in team games, arty flares and stuka dive bomb once it starts barraging.
People like you are the reason why I avoided using this forum for a long time. Always have to talk about balance shit fest. It's like I say why can't soviets or UKF have flares just like pfusiliers?
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but pfusiliers doctrinal.
Well nah shit, just like getting TOT barrage to counter your lefh. or IL2 strike from soviets and if you don't go Royal arty to fight arty emplacements? UKF in struggle bus.
We should try to keep the amount of scouting options to a fair minimum. In general allied factions already have the advantage in terms of map vision. No need to further solidify their lead atm. |
You.... do realize that gun and crew are 2 different things?
you're right if he means the gun only, i think he is referring to the overall unit, including the crew as well |
Gun shield doesn't lower dmg on the weapon itself.
as it was already mentioned several times, gunshield is supposed to provide green cover to some of the crew, however due to lelic coding, it sometimes works and sometimes doesnt. Also helps to avoid aoe damage.
So yes, overall the raketencrew takes more dmg than a shiedled atg. |
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if he already has an MG in the first engagement, you were literally afk for the first 5+ mins of the game |
Thread: Comet12 Jun 2020, 22:05 PM
from my expierence (2on2, ~100th) the british tank meta seems to be pretty healthy and versatile.
The only thing i would consider too strong would be the AVRE and maybe slighty too strong the churchill HP bar.
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" yup. Imagine if someone was comparing the is-2 with the elefant. That's how stupidly stupid the tiger/isu comparison is. It's literally comparing apples and oranges.
not really, IS-2 is a general tank while the elefant is purely TD.
However the ISU can also be used as AT and AI, and is very dominant in the current 2on2+ meta. While not having a turret, it basically performs the same basic function as a tiger, and is in general just the better unit. The ISU is a special case of unit, because there is no direct counter part to it.
Not not mention you cannot compare units in a vacuum, by setting them up in a 1on1 fight, as this it not a realistic meta scenario. |
Other heavies were not buggy and they got the exact same nerf, yet no one complains about them being dead.
Again, people grew so used to overpowered tiger, they can't stand a balanced one, screaming to overpower it again, because they forgot how a balanced one is supposed to look like.
Its AT is superior.
Its AI is still better then IS-2 and worse then Pershing, its exactly where its supposed to be performance wise compared to other 2, its not going to get brummbar-like performance again and people can't accept that.
SOV has the ISU which is better than any generalist heavy tank atm.
Pershing actually still gets played.
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But in the time ISU will take one shot that will likely miss, Tiger will do 3.
You are better off with desperate SU-76 then ISU if you need actual AT.
its not about a direct engagement, its about harassment. A tiger can easily be scared off late game by a couple of ATGS, not to mention an isu.
An ISU can basically just sit on a decent spot and 24/7 shoot at everything axis has to offer, unless they either decide to a) dive it or b) get an elefant or JT. It causes constant bleed or a need for repair.
Diving it is obviously extremly risky and most likely always will result in a win or lose for either side or you have to get an JT or ele to scare it away. Otherwise it will slowy bleed Axis dry.
Sadly Axis have no "cheap" option to ram and off map it, so going in for a kill is almost always an "all in". |
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