Fail to see in your start post what is actually op about that commanders. They have been out since endless time and now you start complaining?
Not taking into effect that any play that delays your tanks is very risky.
But please nerf those commanders so we see more T2 into Tiger play because everything else is not viable.
Actually you have failed to read AND UNDERSTAND my post. I'm not complaining about both those commanders. I'm complaining about the ability in particular.
Not only pgrens profit from that broken ability but also grens can quickly obtain lmg42 wich are still the meta in this game.
Lol Panzergrenadiers with shcrecks are so easy to counter. They arent epic without them, but when they get panzershreks they are so easy to kill with infantry. A single sherman or t34 can easily force them away...
They are performing well. Don't forget they have been buffed in the most recent patches. Once they are upgraded with shrecks and start destroying vehicles they will vet very fast. They also often get lucky infantry kills with their shrecks. But this also happens often with zooks. Surely another matter Relic must adress. Anyway a smart player will always keep a gren squad or a pak near the pgrens to deal with charging tanks.
Just play a lot of 1vs1 as allies and you will see that quite a lot ostheer players use one of those commanders.