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Thread: USA - Weaksauce late game?21 Jul 2014, 21:32 PM I always get the medic van as soon as possible, as it is more important than anything else to me espec. since I make and use sturmpios to fight with Spec ops. So far I consider 3 x volksgrens w/ Panzershrecks plus puppchen as needed to be vital for the OKW faction. Some players actually don't build volks and trade them for sturmpios or doctrinal infantry; personally it is the sturmpios that I replace, not the volks. As the game develops, the Panther I try to get will be outnumbered so I don't use it against armor unless it's well supported. Jump back to quoted post21 Jul 2014, 20:52 PMMadeMan ^ (@ COH2PLAYER) I only play 1v1, I might give it a try though. My only concern with that is that it leaves me without the medic van which I like to have because I depend on my infantry so much. . In: COH2 Balance
Thread: USA - Weaksauce late game?21 Jul 2014, 20:40 PM ^^^ With spec ops I did this for AT in my last OKW 2 v 2: -3 volksgrens with PzS + sturmpios -2 puppchen with the volks -Pumas mid game + T4, obers to replace sturmpios, fought t-34 spam -C-Panther late game vs. continuation of the T-34 spam worked remarkably well. IIRC the match lasted 40 minutes plus. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: USA - Weaksauce late game?21 Jul 2014, 18:33 PM 8 Shermans is 2 or 3 players worth of armor so you are talking about 3/4 v 3/4. Pumas are very effective due to their high pen (160), speed, and range (50). That's why mobile defense (Ost) and puma OKW is so popular. Double pumas, binded to hotkeys, are especially effective for hit and run. Panther Command tank comes with spotting scopes with doubles the sight range. The regular panther comes in late. PzS are good. Puppchen is good if it is part of network. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: USA - Weaksauce late game?21 Jul 2014, 18:10 PM ^^ Combined AT from Pumas, Panthers, Puppchen, PzS mutually supporting each other on VPs. Unlike kt/jadgpanzer, both Puma and Panther are flexible AFVs. US doesn't really outnumber Ost T3 so there's: faust, paks, pzS, cheap and effective stug IIIs (with vehicle stun to worry about), P4s, and Tigers or Panthers. Then of course, mines. Sherman 75 spam isn't really that effective. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: USA - Weaksauce late game?21 Jul 2014, 17:20 PM They can put up a strong defense, but after most axis armor is knocked out, what then? They'd need to push forward to exploit and this is often the problem. With all fuel invested in Jacksons/M8s instead of shermans, exploitation of the situation is the problem. The Pershing would solve the problem- it's both close support heavy armor, AI and AT. Jump back to quoted post21 Jul 2014, 17:03 PMCookiezNcreem I agree OP. I always disagree with people when they say the US late game needs a buff like a Pershing etc etc 2-3 Jacksons and some M8A1s along with any version of well equipped infantry will basically ROCK HARD counter everything short of a supported Tiger ace if you can kite well. (Since you cant kite the TA effectively unless you are a kiting god with its 50 range and CRAZY RoF and damage.) The defensive nature of US late game puts the iniative back to the Axis side. They can more easily dictate where to attack when Us fuel is sunk into jacksons. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: USA - Weaksauce late game?21 Jul 2014, 16:47 PM The Bazookas are a bit weird. They are ineffective individually but can be effective only if blobbed (which is not good for the infantry though). The Pzg PzS has better pen and does 240 damage per strike. The Bazooka has less pen and does only 80 damage each. 2 x zooks do 160 damage. Pretty much from experience I think critical mass is 4 x zooks, which is pretty steep investment as individual zooks are ineffective. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: USA - Weaksauce late game?21 Jul 2014, 16:09 PM Using the M8, M36 well is not always easy in circumstances due to their glass cannon attributes. Paras with double 30 cals are great, though. Bazookas are OK only in 4s (Captain and a rifle) I think the issue with US late game is the defensive nature they suddenly take since they dont have the heavy tanks. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: State of the balance according to Imperial Dane21 Jul 2014, 14:52 PM The KV-1 is the same price (145 fuel) and doesn't really work as a tank. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: The SU7621 Jul 2014, 14:03 PM I would really like to see the SU-76 viable. In one year I have never seen it viable in any of its iterations. I would like it to have the same AT as the T-34/76 but with the option of switching to HE rounds. Then it could also auto-bombard like the M8 scott. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Balance Wehrmacht vs. US21 Jul 2014, 07:19 AM I have more experience now. Scratch the 222. I tried it twice and it didn't work (got countered). Assgrens worked if properly used, 250 HT w/PzG works, Stug III E works. Puma is good, command panzer is good. MG-42s become more important to use with grenadiers. Built more MG-42s than with other factions. T3 is of course, good. In: COH2 Balance