Profile of skemshead

I'm not talking 2v2 btw because of the presence of a possible OKW ally giving them access to puma which hard counters the m5 and also if both are Ost they can each get 1 pak denying the effectiveness of the M5 which is to attack where there's no pak present.

Of course Ost will lose some level of map control. That's the entire point of a 'shock unit" like the M5, to swing map control to the soviets until Axis armor comes in. Another thing to point out is that Soviets don't have the luxury of your "fact". The fact is Soviets are forced to choose either T1 or T2 so that's either cons+support weapons or penals+snipers+cons, Soviets have to sacrifice either an effective infantry(penals) or support weapons to begin with. No one is going for both T1 and T2 unless they really need to or its already late in the game and is also contrary to the point of a fast M5 since T1 and T2 consts fuel thus it would delay T3 and ultimately the M5 if both were gotten.

Is Ost fighting an uphill battle when it comes to light vehicle? No one quite knows yet since the patch is still a week old and the meta has not yet stabilized, so until the meta has stabilized and majority of the top players think that T3 sov tech timing is broken it is assumed to be fine as is the opinion of the majority at the moment.

It is not the opinion of the majority ( except die hard sov only players ) that the timing of the M5 is fine.

I think the whiners not you should say sorry. They play 1v1 games 1 day in fact (in preview it was team games mostly available).
Puma available at 5 CP. In last game T70 came at 4.5 CP.
BS whine topic nothing else unfortunately. Puma is an overkill. You have enough T1-T2 units to deal with t70.

My perspective applies only to 1v1. Having played a few games with this patch(all vs sov coincidentally ) and watched many more, it is fairly obvious the amount of time sov T3 has free range is too great. It is easy to say use packs or schrecks but unless the sov player becomes overly aggressive or careless you have little opportunity to counter.

Ost has absolutely no choice but to turtle and simply try to hold until T3. Forget T4, thats not going to happen. It you sent any units off to harass the fringes their dead. Schrecks are tediously unreliable at max range, often getting suppressed and thus delaying shot or missing. For grens you either faust and maybe die in process or don't faust and definitely get chased down.

Also forget scout cars as a reliable counter. Yes they work if you can ambush the HT however that comes with risk of mines and at nades because you have to flank,but in the open its suicide.

I don't think it is grossly OP, more just a little to early and probably too long until Ost t3. It also has the potential to the win sov the game in one push if ost is unlucky or not 100% prepared. I also think some maps that don't have the fuel close to base will just become quite difficult as sov can just choke Ost for fuel. The extra map control also allows sov to spam mines everywhere.

Mobile defense does shut it down and as a result will be a mandatory commander this patch.

The other issue is its boring. The games i watched just devolved into two fortified lines with the sov player just bombarding away, whilst ost prays he can hang on. Ironically the games ost won would have turned out differently had the sov player prepared ( with mines ) properly.

More time will tell exactly how this plays out but I suspect Ost options / playstyle just narrowed considerably and thus just became more boring to play.

Whats the point of asking for advice if you just rubbish what people say.

I am having a hard time to counter lmg grens with SU stock units. Cons die like flies. Any advice?

Why are you trying to counter grens that have a 60 muni upgrade with cons. Logic dictates you should loose.

The 120mm is almost he same as it used to be. They reduced the damage from 100 -> 80. All infantry models have 80 HP. All the change really did was make the 120 do less damage in its other AOEs, do less damage against structures, and lose precision strike.

120 is still just as good at wiping squads as it has ever been. In fact, its a lot easier to get now at 330 mp. Much better than the shitty soviet 82mm mortar.

^This.

All Ost infantry is extremely vulnerable to indirect fire. Even if you don't get significant kill counts you will damage their health thus making them less effective. On certain maps 1 or even 2 120's are a real annoyance.

A fast T70 or SU76 also do well.

Spamming mines also still work quite effectively, especially if you plant them near corners where grens bunch up.

does anybody really believe that Relic is actually fully involved in COH2?

Not a chance.