Profile of Appleseed

i talked about this crap unit couple times already and relic really just don't care about this piece of crap.

it cost same as T70 and SU76 and yet weaker AI and AT ability compare to both of those units. maybe AI is little better than SU76 in normal fire. but SU76 have barrage ability to take out AT and MG positions, what Stug 3E have? a target weak point vet ability that nearly do no damage to anything higher than M3 scout car. every time i see that ability i keep wondering is this unit design to AI? if it is design for AI why that hell developers give it a AT ability that have no effect.

also i never see it useful against any infantry, never see it kill more than 1 infantry model in 1 shot (if it hits). only useful against infantry units when i have more than 3 of them and firing at same time, then i will see some results but in the same time it is so weak against AT fire if soviet player push with infantry and AT gun or any tank like SU76 or better that thing can only start backing off.

Stug 3E cost 160MP 55FU, 320HP, 80 damage, 45 penetration, armor 120/60, no turret
T70 cost 160MP,55FU, 320HP, 40 damage, 45 penetration, armor 55/35
SU76 cost 160MP,55FU 320HP, 80 damage, 93 penetration, armor 100/55

Stug 3E is like a weak version combination of SU76 of T70, same penetration of T70 yet no turret, less speed and miss alot, not nearly effective on AI like T70, yet it have same damage as SU76 but less than half of its penetration, no barrage ability and have a 0 effective AT ability and a slower rotation speed, only thing Stug 3E have better is 120 armor but that really don't help much because even AT nade have 100 penetration, 200MP 45mm AT gun have 80 penetration, that little extra armor only gives about 17% better survival chance compare to SU76

they really should buff it or change it to Stug 3H or Panzer 3

i love this unit, in a even game and i see enemy tanks is gathering though teammate's scout plane. so i built a pak43 near the riverbank near their gather area and send in a sniper and few infantry units to scout, my pak43 killed 2 ISU 152, (1 is actually after battle and it was repairing in the back but it was still in teh range of my Pak43 and got vision from my teammate's scout plane again and killed it) 4 T34/76 （pretty much 1 shot each)

i agree that this unit need a hold fire button and maybe add camo upgrade that cost ammo and this thing need to STOP STOP firing at infantry!!!

Your use MG is wrong. It is not front weapon. It is support for yours grens. Dont leave your MG alone, it is mistake.

i am not saying it is front line weapon even i leave it behind the lines covering a flag. it will get wipe by a con that charge head because MG42 can't pin con in 1 burst while in other hand, Maxim can pin gren in 1 burst

also another thing i think is inbalance is when MG in house, all mg team will have same arc while garrison in a house which is fine by me but sov MG can change direction so fast in the house just like outside the building is very OP compares HMG42 change directions as slow as outside. i mean once MG team garrison in buildings the only advanage of HMG42 is gone, and Sov MG team is superior in everyway, better suppression, faster change direction(windows), 6men squad.

i think HMG42 should at least have same suppression as Maxim and same change direction speed while garrison in a building or make Sov MG teams change windows as slow as German HMG.

Veterans CoH1 remeber how flank MG. Two squads from diferent direction.
New players want super mighty MG. Only place and forget.
Strong MGs kill early game.

ok let's talk about what happen to flank a MG with a base infantry unit from both side

Ost. MG42: 1 con flank from side can chase it and force it to retreat because it won't have enough time to change direction, even they manage to change direction it will jut got molotov in the face, so it is done for.

Sov. MG team: 1 gren flank from side, A, sov MG turned really fast and pin gren in 1 burst. B, Sov mg keep turning for 20sec and can't get pin on gren then retreat because Sov MG team are 6 men and soak up alot damage. if gren try firing a nade just give sov MG team time to make the turn, also i find if a gren with lmg42 is even more useless flanking sov MG as lmg42 can't fire while moving

as for fighting MG team head on:

Ost need 2 gren to fire 2 rifle nades to take it down a Sov MG team to 1 to 2 people while 1 con can run up MG42's face and toast it with 1 molotov is fair?

so Ost need 480MP and 50MU（2x25MU rifle nade) to bring it down a Maxim to 1 to 2 men then pray to shoot off the rest. In the same time soviet only need 240MP and 25MU (10MU Oorah! +15MU molotov) (with 2 con 480MP it is even easier and usually don't even need molotov）while MG42 usually don't have chance to run back because they will all burn to ash try to pack up the MG42 is balance?

BTW, regarding tanks traps, there are tanks that can crush them like Panthers in vCoH?

Or the only way to pass through is destroying them?

in description it said can be crush by heavy tanks i think, can't remember correctly, i guess panther can't crush it because it is not heavy tank