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Meanwhile, the Greyhound takes zero shots to kill with rifles, because it DOESN'T TAKE BULLET DAMAGE.

"Between armored cars and light armor"?? The 222 IS supposed to be an armored car. I don't understand this absurd insistance on keeping it unviable by making it take damage from bullets. There WHOLE point of ANY kind of light armored vehicle is to harass infantry. If it can't do that, there is absolutely no reason to use it.

Might be because it's a doctrinal vehicle which arrives minutes later and cost double the fuel ?

222 is there to counter all those pesky vehicles which arrives earlier or at the same time, (Bren, Clowncar, Dodge, M20) while soft dealing with anything which can comes later (Greyhound, AEC, T70, AAHT).
You want the unit to provide something which is not designed for, due to arrival time or cost. YOU don't find any use out of it, shame. There are other people who use it previously, use it now and will use it even more after the buffs.

First of all stats.

Squad size reduced from 2 to 1
• Camouflage combat reset time from 16 to 10
• Camouflage revert time from 3 to 6
• Hitpoints increased from 64 to 82
• Population increased from 8 to 9
• Ready aim time changed to 1.5 From 1.75 CORRECTION From 1.0
• Cooldown changed to 3.5 (min) - 4 (max) From 4.8


NOTE: Wasn't all snipers supposed to have their max CD be usage as base.
"Cooldown, and all aim-time always uses the max amount of time and has been standardized for all distances meaning snipers do not fire more quickly the closer the target is."
Why not just put it at 3.75 and call it a day.


• Reload duration decreased from 5 to 4.5
• Reload frequency increased from 4 to 9
Mosin Nagant with 10 munition clip

• Population from 8 to 9
• Out of cover camouflage decloak time increased by 2 seconds

TL;DR: slightly worst OH sniper.


My vote goes to: change/nerf SU sniper in some other ways while retaining the 2 man squad.

1- I REALLY HOPE the buff to counters will basically make sniper play unplayable (all of them), cause i don't want to see a game on which SU soviet snipers are stronger than now, and the only realistic solution is gonna be counter snipe because:
-Mortars won't be able to kill them at either 82HP or because when they are in cover, they will still not kill them at all. YOU ALL people complaining about 2x64 HP are gonna miss the times you could kill them with indirect fire.
-Camouflage on the move is GOOD.

2- I REALLY HOPE mostly OH sniper on soviet faction doesn't make it so it's stronger with higher risk to pull them off. I don't want to see cheese games of clowncar + snipers and OH hiding till 222 arrives and the result of the game is determined by either Soviet going full clowncar sniper into T70 or OH managing to kill snipers.

3- I thought we established that Company of snipers was a bad design.

4- Why not nerf/adjust soviet snipers with:
A) Make the scout rifle transferable instead of the sniper variant. Increase reinforce cost/time. This allows OH german sniper to counter snipe basically always, when it retains better camouflage and better RoF.
B) Increase splash on 64dmg threshold on incendiary shot (so you can 1 shot soviet sniper more reliable) and give flares revealing on cloak targets. Now both units have a vet 1 ability which lets you counter the other sniper.
C) Just increase size on SU sniper to offset the higher HP pool.

Although I trust you grabbed the right stats, I do recall some value where suppression struggles to relieve itself even if shots coming at them don't carry suppression.

Because that's combat status. You have different recovery suppression velocity depending if you are in cover and under fire or not.

TBH, my explanation is what i supposed Relic did as an easy way to implement suppression on Obers, for when they hit vet 4 in the past. If base suppression was 0, they would had to probably add a new weapon profile for when they vet.
Interesting enough, this was what probably caused an issue back then, when we had Grens (and other squads which used the same weapon) with suppression causing ruckus in the game. Someone copy paste the wrong values.

Rifles out dps most nondoc axis infantry except the Strumpio at close range.




Wouldn't Falls being pretty bad if the FG42 was turned into a mid-range weapon? They feel a little too squish to be a mid-range based unit imo.

Falls have always been too expensive. Changes to RA or others may be due.
When i say reduce long range DPS on ARs, i'm talking about putting it barely above Obersoldaten level of DPS from range 25-35. If that doesn't give you a perspective, it has double DPS than Grens Kar at range 35.

I'm a believer that DPS powercreep since WFA has been set too high, which makes profiles on weapons worthless and forces you on a race to get weapon upgrades on all your units.

I don't expect the JP4 to have its old OP 150% damage/pen buff. But one of the best ways to balance all factions would be by making OKW vet 5 = vet 3 of the other factions. Otherwise the faction would be weaker/stronger in different game modes that adhere to more early/lategame play whichever the case. I.e. If OKWs vet 3 was equal to other factions vet 3 they'd be batshit OP in teamgames since teamgames tend to go much deeper into lategame.

This is the answer.

Make vet 1-3 give raw buffs to stats, and vet 4/5 unlock abilities. EZPZ

Something which we have seen been done.

And now it's utterly anemic, a single 200 damage shot, slopes. Compare that to the fireflies vet 3, which grants it a perminant +80 damage.

No it's not. Because FF vet 3 bonus been stupid (dmg modifiers are effy), doesn't mean we should buff all units vet 3 around it. Also, it's +40dmg since the last patch (nerfed in general)

Accuracy from 0.08/0.07/0.05 to 0.06/0.05/0.04
Moving accuracy from 0.75 to 0.55
Tulip rockets no longer cancels move commands of the vehicle it hits
Tulip rocket damage against infantry to 33%
Veterancy 3 damage bonus from 80 to 40

Also note that taking stats in isolation doesn't fare well when the unit is the one with the slowest RoF on stock units and prior to vet 3, pretty bad at dealing with mediums compared to all other TDs, for cost, cause a 200dmg model only works well against PV and vet 2 JPIV and maybe the Stug (which can out trade the FF cause it basically shoots twice per shot on the FF).