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Im loving this doctrine, its my favorite of the new commanders. Since the hotfix the assault grens doctrine kind of sucks in my opinion, havent found a use for that one yet.

Anyway does anyone have any good strategies where they can make good use of what the Osttrupen Doctrine has to offer? Im finding them very useful as a kind of filler for your army. I do the normal German strategies from before the patch but instead of making grens first, i make the building but make 2 Osttrupen squads first, then make a gren or and mg. The ostruppen guys run around and cap everything getting as much early map control as possible, avoiding combat unless there is a building nearby or I need them to stall while my grens or mg's come to support them. It works very well in early game and I usually can keep my opponent screwed. Ill get about 2 of each Grenadiers and MG42's but I wont upgrade the grens with the LMG till after i get to t2. Instead ill use my Osstrupen to make a bunker on the enemies fuel point or my own and upgrade it to an MG nest. Really helps keep that point for a long period of time and puts the soviet in a bad spot. By then he usually gets a flamer or m3 to try to take out the bunker at which time ill get t2 and make the scout car. After this I pretty much just play normally but I always like to have atleast 2 Osttrupen squads up and they just run around ghost capping while I fight the enemy with the rest of my army. They avoid combat and i use them to run in and recrew field weapons as well. Sometimes they will join the fight and ill stick em infront of my normal squads kind of like meat shields. Usually I get my grens LMG'd up and go for P4's. Havent used trenches much.



What i really like about the doctrine is the new changes to the Artillery Officer. This guy gives a passive aura of +15% accuracy to all infantry around him, and he has an ability where for i think around 20-30 seconds all units around him get thier DPS DOUBLED. I usually keep one of these guys going with my LMG grens at all times. The LMG already doubles DPS and then when the officer turns on his DPS aura I've seen my 2 gren squads literally chew through 4 conscript squads so quickly he had to insta retreat. it was amazing. Also when i put my arty officer near my mortars, it might just be luck, but they seem to be more accurate.

Lovin the doctrine, im no pro, im ranked around 300-400 usually with both Germans and Soviets. Anyone else have any good use/strategies for this doc?


edit: have been experimenting with trenches, they seem to work much better than buildings. They wont collapse and also your units can be damn near hit right on top of them with a mortar and it usually will only kill 1 unit or so. They also dont take much splash damage from artillery while inside. I like em since u can spam em for free. Best to use them if you expect to be shelled with arty/mortars.


heres the strategy i winded up staying with, Osstrupen/Sniper/1MG opener. heres the replay me vs a soviet ranked around 200. http://www.coh2.org/replays/8674/new-osstrupen-strategy-showcasing-unorthodox-play./page/1#post_id80528

just tried this crap vs wuff, looks like the sweet spot is 3 arse grens, then tech to SC.
his flamer m3 did hit the field at the same exact time as my 222, which I was able to upgun straight away.
by this time what he had left was one standard territory point.
he could have won the cons/flame-m3 assgr/SC engagement but still he had to come back from being almost basepinned, and i had plenty of resources to keep scout cars coming

the guy in the following game immediately asked if I was using the commander and surrendered

this is sad and literally makes me sick.

why did they fuck this game so hard and why do they hate soviets so much? Soviets have always been a fly by the seat of your pants faction where really you have to just react to the german player, not make your own strategy. And now its even worse, pigeonholded into 1 strategy or just playing to counter the german and eventually lose either way. I refuse to even play soviet anymore after this new patch. Makes me sick and I doubt ill be playing much longer.

grenadier rifle grenade

its Op once it gets a vet star or two it turns into a fucking p4 pretty much, 2-3 vet stars on ur armored car which for some reason gets veterency VERY VERY quickly, and u have a strong ass tank that can take 2-3 AT shells and a shit ton of AT nades/small arms.

the answer is to make it stop gaining veterency so quickly or making it weaker when it has vet stars. Its rediculous when it has a couple.