Soviets have to specilize because important units lie in different buildings. You cant build all the buildings you have to select two, and they cost alot and take a very long time to build, which doenst make sense.
So half of the soviet army will always be unavailable to the soviet player, unlike germans whos units all lie in the different tiers as they tech up, they have access to all thier infantry except pgrens in thier t1 building right off the bat.
This inheritly allows for germans to be able to do much more things and have much more flexible strategies. There is no denying this fact. I feel after the soviet player makes two buildings, the others should go down in price and build time so if he so wishes, and has the extra resources, he can make a third building to get access to more of his army without putting himself behind so much in fuel that its a death sentence.
Conscripts are so bad and are just a manpower drain on the soviet player. They are outclassed in every single way and die very fast to LMG grens, and the grens can get LMG's within the first minutes of the game, which is ludacris and unbalanced. Its also not doctrinal like the only way soviets have of upgrading conscripts so they can fight back (PPsh). Also, soviet players have to pay 250 man power and 50 fuel just so that thier conscripts can have the same abilities as grens do for free right off the bat.
Combat Engineers for some reason cost more than thier counterpart pioneers. And build times are ludacris which is why 90% of all soviet players have to start out spamming conscripts, which are outclassed in every way especially since losing thier bulletins in the past patch.
I play both and am decently ranked with both, and I know without fanboyism, that germans are slighty overpowered and you can just do so much more with them, they are more fun, they are able to dictate the flow of battle because of the sheer number of possible strategys they can use and the soviet always seems to have to counter them.
Tiger tanks are way too tough and powerful for only being 200 fuel, many times have i had all the fuel on the map and still my enemy is able to call in a tiger and use it to eventually win the game, since when its vet 1 ability comes up its way too strong. Multiple Zis's + su85's wont kill this thing in time because 80% of the shots will be deflected. Its an easy "I win" button that works unless your really bad or your against overwhelming odds and have no luck.
All german armor outclasses soviet armor in every way, but soviets dont even have the AT options germans have with thier panzershreks. Also blitzkreig STILL works when your engine is damaged while ram doesnt, and the devs have known about this and still havent fixed it.
It all doesnt make much sense to me, and how the devs and community can think this is 100% balanced is beyond logic, the people who say this only play german so they wouldnt know. Soviet is hard mode for sure. I can go on and on about balance but it will fall on fanboy ears and make no difference.
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Thread: German flexibility vs Soviet flexibility 13 Oct 2013, 08:31 AM
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Thread: Decent strat ive been using to beat LMGgren or AssGren Spam.13 Oct 2013, 04:27 AM
heres one replay. only one ive saved so far. i was mad at the time because the opponent disconnected. I was rude afterwards and it was uncalled for. I got rage issues, But whatevs. Good replay though between two decently ranked/skilled players http://www.coh2.org/replays/9162/z3r0-zero-gets-owned-and-drophacks.-heres-the-proof. |
Thread: Decent strat ive been using to beat LMGgren or AssGren Spam.12 Oct 2013, 11:09 AM
Ranked around 400-600 with Soviet... so this strat works pretty damn well against everyone except the top 100 pros... lately since the new german meta seems to be LMG Gren spamming then p4, or osttrupen/assgren spam, i been going old school on em, works alot since germans are very predictable and dont expect a soviet to not spam conscripts. I actually hate conscripts and try to make only 1 or 2 for the AT nades, they are outclassed in every single way by anything the enemy has so they are just manpower drains. I make a t2 building right off the bat, and 1 conscript while its being built. Then the engi and conscript go out to cap, i dont spread out much since im already behind since the building takes so long to complete (which is ridiculous IMO) so i keep em close together. Then i start spamming 2-3 maxims and lock down my side of the map quickly. Everytime I see those broken LMG grens I put a maxim on him. I then make 1 more conscript. If germans are using buildings maybe a mortar. Heres where it gets fun... So usually german player will freak out and make a flame halftrack or some scout cars, thats why with this strategy I use the new Urban Defense Commander. If you bought him use him here it has good synergy with maxim spam because of the little AT gun. You can make this little AT guy at 1 command point and he only costs 200 mp. Also get AT nades researched for ur 1 or 2 conscripts that you should always have around the map. First vehicle you see try to AT nade it or atleast put your little AT gun on him, he wont be expecting this little guy and all the munitions he spent on those upped scout cars or FHT just went down the drain when it gets two shot. The At gun works better than gaurds in my opinion. Itll keep any german light vehicles off the field and is much cheaper. And now your maxims and weapon teams can reign supreme while you tech up to t3 or t4, your choice, but it should come pretty quick cuz u havent used much fuel. Fun Fact, the little AT gun gets vett'ed up very quick and at vet 2 it does alot more damage, at this point it can really take out a good amount of a p4's hp, especially if you got an AT nade on it and hit it from the back This strat catches german players off gaurd pretty well because most of em are so used to easy mode they just spam LMG grens/assgrens/osttrupen no matter what you do and go thru their normal motions, this throws a big wrench in their plans and allows you to capitalize on their early game decisions. If you dont have this commander, i'd imagine any Gaurds Rifle commander will do, but Gaurds are almost twice as expensive as the mini AT. http://www.coh2.org/ladders/playercard/steamid/76561198096023775 |
Thread: More Tiger Spam. How do you beat this strat on semoski?11 Oct 2013, 01:21 AM
Another replay where i outplayed the german entire game until he starts spamming tigers, literally spamming them even when i had the fuel points most of early game and then parity in late game... Still cant compete with germans being able to call in a 200 fuel tank that is the strongest tank in the game... Why the hell did they lower the cost of these things? Seems they get spammed all the time late game on semoski... I out played him as good as possible by setting up combined arms ambushes with rams and using my ISU152 to pick em off after immoblized but as soon i kill two he'll make one more. Literally thats all his army really even consisted of. Help please? I posted a replay before where this same typeo f thing happened to me but i had t4 up so i used su85's and still wind up losing cuz tigers are so cost effective and powerful... In: Replays |
Thread: Shreks in halftrack need accuracy penalty while moving..10 Oct 2013, 09:47 AM
You have a good scorecard, but your balance critique is pretty terrible. The suggestion i made the post for is at the top, and its a good one... After that i said i was going to rant and that's exactly what i did. Just because I am very outspoken about balance does not mean im a fanboy, i play both factions, and if it was the other way around I would be outspoken about soviet being OP. I just want the game to be a little more fair and the wait is becoming very long. If no one speaks up about it, nothing will ever change. Also, I find it funny you personally attack me when your a legend of coh2 already, the biggest forum fanboy out there, i even hear sarcastic shoutouts to you in peoples streams. Lulz. In: COH2 Balance |
Thread: Shreks in halftrack need accuracy penalty while moving..10 Oct 2013, 09:11 AM
With everyone using that new commander again since they made Assgrens spammable n cheap once again for god knows what reason.. I really think the two new german doctrines need balancing... one thing that really needs to be done is shreks need to have less accuracy while chasing shit down with thier halftrack... kind of like snipers... ------the rest of this post is my opinion about balance and is somewhat of a rant.. but hell im fed up and tired of waiting, no ones making enough noise and the devs arent making the changes needed. Im honestly tired of trying to make soviet work, and german is too easy and gets old quick. The devs arent listening to the community and I see more and more people complaining that soviets need help, its everywhere on every coh2 forum but still nothing changes. hell the only major change last patch one of our tanks (kv8) got nerfed. I dont think they understand whats going on, and I know fanboys and people who ONLY play german will refute anything anyone says about balance.. (fanboys btw are very bad for the game since it confuses devs) Im not sure I even want to play this game anymore. I see less and less streamers as well. I think im done playing this game for a while. Also LMG grens and gren spam is a bit ridiculous. and Tigers for only 200 fuel... LOL. 250 manpower and FIFTY fuel just to get AT nades/Molotovs on my shitty ass conscripts when grens have them from the start? and this comes from a player ranked around 300 with BOTH factions. I dont feel like you should be able to say ANYTHING about balance until uve atleast played 100 games and play both factions somewhat evenly. Otherwise your just polluting the community with unintelligible arguments. Also, if your rank is horrible, u wont know much about balance either... I never see devs playing soviet in any stream, its always german, and i found it somewhat appauling the way they talked so much shit about VonIvan while they casted thier fight. All it shows me is that they arent listening to thier top players of the game, THEY ARE MAKING FUN OF THEM. After playing with the new patch, its obvious nothing really changed. In: COH2 Balance |
Thread: Soviet strafe9 Oct 2013, 21:51 PM
just retreat your squads when it comes out? It costs 240 munitions while the german one costs half that. and the german one pins. If u retreat as fast as u can U may lose a few members of some squads or maybe god forbid u lose one squad... for 240 munitions... use any of the german OP options and ull never havce to worry about your opponent getting 240 munitions and command points high enough to use this strafe. In: COH2 Balance |
Thread: The reason why ill never play soviets again,Vet3Tiger Inside9 Oct 2013, 06:37 AM
http://www.coh2.org/replays/9013/the-reason-why-ill-never-play-soviets-again-vet3tiger-inside I keep hearing how german armor is overpowered, and how people keep complaining about blitzkreig working on damaged engines... but this match just proves it in my eyes. And you can see how ridiculous this thing is. Even before it got its veterency my 2 At guns and 2 Su85's still could not kill this thing, then when it started vetting up, it just became a 1 man army... keep in mind im a decently ranked player, especially WITH german. Please tell me what im supposed to do, the 90% entire game until tiger hit I had both fuel points, and was dominating the map. The game was in the bag, until one unit hits the field and changes everything even though I had him cut off from fuel. How is this fair is all i want to know, and i played well until i got demoralized. It goes to show how this game needs changes, especially veterancy scaling.. a much less skilled player that made so many mistakes in the game can win with one blatantly overpowered unit and a little luck. Fuck beating my head against the wall trying to make soviets work. Going back to playing german and moving up the ladder In: COH2 Balance |
Thread: The reason why ill never play soviets again,Vet3Tiger Inside9 Oct 2013, 06:34 AM
I keep hearing how german armor is overpowered, and how people keep complaining about blitzkreig working on damaged engines... but this match just proves it in my eyes. And you can see how ridiculous this thing is. Even before it got its veterency my 2 At guns and 2 Su85's still could not kill this thing, then when it started vetting up, it just became a 1 man army... keep in mind im a decently ranked player, especially WITH german. Please tell me what im supposed to do, the 80% entire game until tiger hit I had both fuel points, and was dominating the map. The game was in the bag, until one unit hits the field and changes everything even though I had him cut off from fuel. How is this fair is all i want to know, and i played decently. It goes to show how this game needs changes, especially veterancy scaling, a much less skilled player that made so many mistakes in the game can win with one blatantly overpowered unit and a little luck. My su85's which are supposed to be the soviets only REAL choice for mobile AT, didnt penetrate the tiger about 6-7+ times in a row, and probably 15+ times the whole game... now im no pro, and granted i did make some mistakes with my su76's and my first su85. Im just pretty mindblown.... In: Replays |
Thread: How do you counter gren LMG spam --> P4 @ high tier play?8 Oct 2013, 20:18 PM
this is quickly becoming the meta for germans and im wondering how people are dealing with it because soviets seem so weak when this strategy comes into play.. All the german player really does is pump out grens and upgrade with the LMG. If you get a sniper or anything he gets scout cars, otherwise hes going to just use his grens with LMG to eat all your infantry, maybe get an mg42 or two, n then get p4's. Im having a real hard time dealing with this as soviet and need some advice. The LMG is just so strong early game... In: Strategy Desk |
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