Profile of zarok47

Squad formations have been reworked, and you would be amazed at how well those 4-men squads can spread out, or how fast they can exit garrisons.

Not the point, which is that the comet can oneshot a 4 man squads while the panthers mg will do a stream of damage negated by cover, RA en the inability to instagib.

Their AI is leagues apart, calling both generalist is an insult to the comet and a joke for the panther.

Generalist = can mess up infantry really badly.

Specialist = Jackson, SU85, Stug

Finally, your definition of a generalist.
Problem is, the su-76 is a generalist by this definition aswell, same as the m10 TANK destroyer, seeing as they mess up infantry better than the panther ever can and have comparable if not better AT capabilties (investment vs output).

If the panther is a generalist (which it isn't) it comes in a row of vehicle's that don't deserve that definition and still manages to come out last.

Nobody reasonable ever complained why Conscript DPS doesn't equal Grenadier DPS (because grenadiers are squishier), so I don't get why people get so hung up with the Panther.

Because the panther is a huge investment with low AI capabilties, medium AT capabilities due to the inability to reliable finish of a vehicle thanks to poor dps/accuracy on the move?

Yes it's durable as fuck on vet 2.
Yes it's strong in numbers.

Problem is, neither matter in 1vs1 or even 2vs2, where accordingly, you never see it.

What does matter is dps/accuracy on the move( which is nerfed for the okw panther, and slightly buffed for the ost panther but only the dps part) Investment required to get it (huge for ost, not cheap for okw either) and the ability to scare/wipe infantry (The latter of which is non-existent for panthers).

To sum up: panther investment for ost is huge, the AI output is not that of a generalist and the damage output of both variants is not reliable enough.
The small dps increase on the ost panther will not make it anymore used in 1vs1 or 2vs2 and the okw panther just got straight up nerfed.

I see no reason to go panther in the current patch and the proposed changes will not change that for the better.

The Panther, at its core, is a low micro generalist unit with high durability and good range and fast speed that can threaten all tank types and infantry. If you can't see why also having pinpoint accuracy on top of that will be an issue, I can't help you.

Have you ever compared the panthers AI capabilities to the following units: EZ8, Pershing, Tiger, comet, cromwel, and heck even a p4?

On what basis do you judge the panther to belong in that list?

Is the su-76 a generalist aswell, seeing as it has AI capabilties with barrage and crush?
Same for the Stug and the Brumbar?

I'm trying very hard to be polite here, but this claim seems ludicrous to me, same as the claim the panther is " more or less good in the first place".

Gonne love the maxim changes tho.

As you have noticed, it is indeed very map, faction and strategy dependant.

However, there are a few basic rules that should cover you.

number 1:Always rush the damn house.

especially true for stone garrison maps, he who holds the house, controls that mapsection. Basicly the entire early game is decided by the player who get's the house first on certain maps.
Bonus point if said house overlooks enemy cut-off.
Obviously not possbile if there is no house, in which case:

Number 2: your cut-off.
Speaks for itself, but still, full map control without the cut-off is worth less than holding a single point.

Number 3: your enemy cut-off
Especially usefull as okw, since you start with sturmpio's, you can get a kubel and a sturm at the enemy cut-off and deny them all resources while your volks cap your side.

other than that, I generally try to get my side as quickly as possible, but do not hesistate to stop capping a point if it means getting either of the 3 rules.

Hope it helps.

2 Strat Points gives a Player 5 fuel and 11 muni?!


Should'nt you think about it, that both side get only 1 more strat Point? Why you say that 1 Player gets both?!

It'S the same like with 10 strat Points. If you say 1 Player is better so he gets 2 more strat Points. It does no matter.

It was to give context to the amount of extra resources poured into an average game on crossroads...

You have also missed where i explain what averse effects there can be from extra resources, would you kindly go back and read it? Because else i keep explaining over and over again how extra muni leads to a devaluation of choice between upgrades and grenades (among other things) and quite frankly, im getting tired of it (and it has nothing to do with what player controls the strat points).

I've also still not seen a reason why 2 extra strat points is a good thing, would you kindly give one aswell?

"light" gammon at 35 muni, 120 damage (infantry has 80 hp) spawns from a building and on a squad with camo.
Brits in all it's glory.

Bundle nade is the same, but costs 45 muni, and only storms have camo.