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Thread: Soviet Industry needs to be nerfed.9 Dec 2013, 19:19 PM Jump back to quoted post9 Dec 2013, 16:02 PMIpKaiFung It's being nerfed in a very indirect way, the moving scatter penalty makes the T-70 and T-34 a lot less potent at killing infantry while on the move. True, but it's far too little of a nerf. It needs to be smashed in the face with the nerf bat. I would change it to 3 CP and make the exchange rate 6:1 MP:Fuel instead of 5:1. It would still be an extremely good commander. The synergy of Tank Spam + free and easy repairs without engineers is just ridiculously good. Repair stations are easily spammable and vehicle crew repair is arguably the best ability in the game. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Soviet Industry needs to be nerfed.9 Dec 2013, 09:58 AM Soviet industry wasn't nerfed at all, sadly. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Soviet Industry needs to be nerfed.6 Dec 2013, 20:12 PM Vehicle self repair should also be removed from soviet industry commander. The synergy is just too ridiculously good with mindless tank spamming. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Soviet Industry needs to be nerfed.3 Dec 2013, 20:08 PM Jump back to quoted post3 Dec 2013, 13:04 PMLe Wish Quite possible, but Stephenn is high up the ladder compared to alot of other players. I think the term noob is quite misleading here. If you are up top 100 are you still a noob? I think this is horribly elitist really. I would argue noob players are much further down the ladder. And if they can exploit the advantages of soviet industry, they would move up the ladder eventually facing better players like you or Stephenn, no? Also, Im trying to give suggestions on how to tackle the commander. However, since I dont play 1v1s, I have to point towards another player I have seen do it well. Also, since you can watch and he is very helpfull in his stream, you usually get alot of god tips to bring to the next game you play. Since most of the players are not in the top 50-100 segment, I really think his comments could actually help alot of players, noobs or not. Lastly, Im not saying that it shouldnt be nerfed, I think it should. Raising CP requirement for soviet industry ability up a commandpoint or so. Just trying to provide input to tackle the commander until(?) its nerfed. I was using the term "noob" in a relative time, not in absolute terms. I meant he was playing against players far below him in skill. I also use the term "noob" also in a derogatory manner to describe players who abuse this commander, because I've lost to terrible players (who would normally be ranked far lower) abusing this commander. There is absolutely NOTHING you can do against soviet industry in 1v1, if the opponent knows how to abuse it. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Soviet Industry needs to be nerfed.3 Dec 2013, 11:33 AM Jump back to quoted post3 Dec 2013, 10:53 AMLe Wish For 1v1s, check out stephennJF. He plays really well against soviet industry, also from what I can see, doesnt risk countering it too soon. Soviet industry is powerful but can be beaten. You really feel mp drain while playing if you start to lose models even worse squads. Even if you can replace tanks fast, replacing still eats manpower. Noteworthy, just because you see the sov. industry in the loadout doesnt mean they go for that doctrine. I played 2v2 yesterday where my teammate brought it (I didnt, no point in bringin duplicates). We faced the same opponents on the same map twice. First my friend went for sov industry but they played well and eventually wore us down after 45 mins or so. For the rematch, he didnt go for industry but had the commander still in his loadout. Our opponents must have thought we would go for the same thing again. Because we started seeing paks, upschrecked pgrens etc that have nothing but infantry to shoot at is quite fun as well. That game we won by a big margin 30 min in. Going proactive can be equally dangerous. Just sayin. As I said earlier check out StephennJF. I am very impressed how he counters sov industry. StephennJF has been playing against noobs who do not know how to exploit the advantages of Soviet Industry. Even if you control 3/4 of the map, the Soviet industry player still has a very high fuel income. The problem is that you can only hope to have T2 up when his T70 rolls out. Your only defense is a halftrack with Shrek + Pak nearby, which can only defend a small portion of the map. He will have multiple T70s roaming the map where your AT is not and also one parked in your base. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Soviet Industry needs to be nerfed.3 Dec 2013, 09:48 AM Elite doctrine is OP, but not nearly as broken as Soviet Industry. You have to be a moron to not win 100% of your games with Soviet Industry. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: The post 'Turning Point' T-34/8530 Nov 2013, 23:33 PM Jump back to quoted post30 Nov 2013, 20:35 PMtokarev T4 is a lot more useful than T3. 2 SU-85+button+at nade+mark the target - any tank goes down, any tank... And Katyusha is a good way to fight off pgrens with shreks. And why would you go T3 if you already get T34-85 with this doctrine? When I go guard motor, I don't build ANY buildings. This maximizes the free tech of T34-85s. You save a TON of MP/Fuel and just spit out 4 tanks when you hit 4CP. In: Red Army Strategies
Thread: Lets fix RNG30 Nov 2013, 22:56 PM Agree with post. COH2 is way more random than vCOH, and not in a good way. In: COH2 Gameplay
Thread: soviet defensive commander MG27 Nov 2013, 19:11 PM Build a sniper. German snipers are pretty much uncounterable except by lucky mortar shots. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Is it just me or Ostheer are just pathetic at this point?27 Nov 2013, 19:09 PM Only Soviet Industry and Elite troops commanders are OP. If both sides play any of the other commanders, it's pretty even. In: Lobby