Profile of panzerjager2

Played a 4 v 4 where we Germans held 1 of the fuel points while the Russians held the other one.

We completely dominated the early and part of the mid game and probably the only mistake we made was not focus all our attention on the remaining fuel. So long story short this let them spam su85's (being only 320mp/115 fuel makes it even easier). Of course on a map like city 17 su85's are very difficult to flank allowing him to camp behind his lines and snipe any armor.

My ally and I attempted to coordinate and flank the 85's with a couple of panthers/shrek squads but he had conscripts and guards to AT/button up while the shrek squads managed to get off just one shot before he did the usual warp speed reverse straight out and finshed off the at grenaded panthers.

But still we managed to hold them off till 99 victory points (we were at 400+). Then came the KV8's .... these things are ABSOLUTELY HELL. They roast infantry incl retreating ones with an efficiency 10X greater than the German FHT and your lucky to even get a panzerfaust off. 2 X KV8's meant that every single AT gun and shrek squad were either roasting or retreating.

Well you say KV8's are supposed to be taken out by tanks ? Sure ... only problem is they have such thick armor that all he has to do is run away and the su85's snipe your armor and its back to square one.

One of us even built a PaK43 - but it lived for a grand total of 1 min. One cheap il2 bombing strike later its history. (these things really need a durability buff but thats a different topic)


I have a question for the devs .... how the hell are Germans expected to counter the KV8 + SU85 combo when it melts everything non armor and su85's will snipe any German armor coming. Trying to use Shrek squads or paks will result in veterancy gain for the kv8 while the su85 will just reverse away.

This is a ridiclously op combo (at least Russians have options like guards button and have no German unit which can single handedly decimate infantry squads without support)

KV8 needs to have its flame damage on par with the FHT at least or reduce its ridiculous armor.

just played a game .... SU85 2 shotted my full health vet 2 mortar team and them promptly sniped my shrek squad forcing them down to 2 members.

It then proceeded to snipe my PAK which managed to fire off 1 whole shot. Forced him to retreat with another PAK ... and he simple used a incendiary barrage to decrew it. Managed to get a PAK43 and guess what ..... he simply retreated and his team - mate called an il2 bomb strike to obliterate my 400+ mp pak43 in 1 run.

My poor ostwind and flame HT were heading back to base permanently after that. Got more shrek squads and the KV8 monster from hell appears.

Panter ? Yup buttoned him up and I just managed to pop smoke and retreat. There is nothing you can do as Germans once they got this cheater combo of SU + KV

"tank destroyer" my ASS ... more like exploit 85

The Panther is also for all intents and pruposes a tank destroyer, seeing as it's nearly worthless against infantry. That's a fine role, but it should definitely beat a SU-85 1v1. It's more expensive, comes later and has the same role, there is no reason that the SU-85 can simply reverse to destroy anything short of an Elefant. Panther is fine, SU needs a nerf; buffing the Panther now risks making the T-34 even more obsolete than it is now. In closed beta the Panther was what the SU is now, a godmode unit that makes any and all opposing armor useless merely by existing. It shouldn't go back to that.

The panther right now is super worthless indeed .... for the price of the teching up + heavy panzer company + a single panther, I could have brought out 2 panzer IV's which would do a way better job against the su85.

Panther is USELESS against any infantry (on par with german scout car) and just average as an anti tank unit. What incentive is there to even build the panther now ?

My suggestion is to buff the Panthers range to 60 to equal the su85 and make its main gun a bit stronger against infantry. This would solve all the problems with su85's while still maintaing balance (of course with a slight reduction of su85 reverse speed to encourage flanking)

^ Ignore the racist troll ... he has had an education in redneckschoolforthekkk. He is such a tool that he had a Waffen SS logo (despite the fact the real SS would probably shoot him before any Jew) and now he has some dumb fuck "USA is best" shit logo.

This despite the fact German tanks raped American tanks 10 to 1 =D

Probably some confused wannabe teen nazi living in the basement of his mom's house in Alabama.

Units die in M3.... SURE COOL BUFF BRAH.
Also if you try to kill the SU85 head on, then you must lack strategy comprehension.....
Also SU-85 as I mentioned are TANK DESTROYERS while Panther and Tiger are just Heavy Tanks. If you don`t get the difference please go play World of Tanks maybe you will figure it out then.... What you expect doesn`t make any difference in the game... I expect sniper to be immortal to Squads since its 360 manpower while Grens are 240.... Should I bitch about how grens can kill snipers with the Rifle Grenade? No, because it doesn`t make any fcking sense.... So if you wan`t to get better please learn to scout the field and flank the SU-85.... I bet you build a P4 or Panther and just have it standing at one spot. Also the calling soviets an easy mode faction just makes me laugh.
If you believe so why don`t you play Soviets? Cause I know for a fact you play Ostheer only

OH NOES my clown car spam is RISKY cos my l337 communist units may actually die if my clowncar gets blown up due to my piss poor micro. OH NO !!!!

I love the way these Russian wannabe's keep telling Germans to "Flank" while they cry massive tears about mg42. At least MG cant reverse away at lightning speed.

How many times to din into your head ... SU85 is virtually unflankable. All you need to do is reverse away warp speed drive engage and maybe even guards to button up and its goodbye German armor. Flank with panzergrenader .... SURE like any decent player wont see that coming and reverse away.

Mind boggling why your brought up the 2 man sniper soviet sniper which for the record is pretty effective against a gren squad considering they have only 4 members. So fail comparison.

The fact that you think there is NOTHING wrong with a su85 being able to outrange and outgun a heavy German Tiger costing more than double the fuel really shows your bias.

For the record I have over 100 wins as Soviets, and if you want we can do a test. Your panther supported by a panzergren squad and my su85 with a guards squad.