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Thread: Guards vs Airborne Long Range7 Aug 2022, 14:55 PM Jump back to quoted post7 Aug 2022, 14:32 PMSkysTheLimit The video shows that guards need heavy cover AND prone position to beat the Obers. And even then it's still a close fight. They would clearly lose in almost every other situation If that's really a problem then get rid of the prone position ability. Or give it more drawbacks besides being stationary Like others have said, I think the main issue with guards is the doctrines they are on. Guard motor is unquestionably OP and Mechanized support is still really strong even after getting nerfed I think we are coming close but missing each other. In any situation the Guards lose so should the other Elites, however they have a situation as you described that has a 50% chance of winning. The generalist should not be able to outperform the dedicated squad especially in a easily replicable situation as both VG and cons can lay down coverage. The doctrines themselves are a separate issue, they overperform due to how well the Abilities synergize with each other. Mark Target>Button>ISU152 is a nightmare to go against. But none of the abilities buff Guards in AI performance so not only do you have a unit that can pressure all infantry up to Obers you also have a Unit that can apply some sort of pressure to every enemy vehicle. To show what I mean, lets replace long range squad for Long range Squad. If you place Airborne Guards for Regular Guards in Airborne Tactic it literally becomes even more powerful than Guards Motor. AT Strafe is back on the menu due to AT Strafe, while mid game is buffed even further due to additional INF presence instead of having to get a AT gun. OR we can look at Terror Tactics which is already another great commander but more for team games. Button plus heavy bomb drop is now available against tanks. Little to no AI is lost due to Guards performance. But if we look at it from the opposite and place Airborne into ANY of the Guards commanders it is an immediate downgrade.(Would probably actually help with balance) In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Guards vs Airborne Long Range7 Aug 2022, 14:22 PM Jump back to quoted post7 Aug 2022, 13:49 PMSkysTheLimit And how did the obers do in light cover? And in no cover? Pretty confident they spank guards in both of those situations, the guards would need their prone position every time Not to mention, obers literally have a doctrinal upgrade that let's them ignore cover bonuses Exactly, if Guards ain't winning neither are the other LR squads as they all have very worst RA except for commandos. And even that is about the same, Guards have a Target size of .66 while having 6men while Commandos are 5 man with .65 target size. The point I am making is that Guards will perform the best regardless of no cover/light cover/heavy cover. Why is the generalist better at the LR job instead of the dedicated specialist. And since you mentioned IR STG, they at least have to move in for maximum damage vs any of these squads, at max range they will lose despite the cover bonus. But lets take that example and look at it from a different perspective. Lets compare IR STG vs any of the allied Elite short range squads. Out of Paras/Airborne/Shocks/Rangers/Commandos/AssGuards they will most likely lose to Shocks/Rangers due to durability and Paras if Tactical Assault is used. The others are gonna lose due to camo detection and AssG being a bit weaker overall. I would assume most would consider this fair trade off as they hit the field earlier and are cheaper overall. Yet since they are all short range they all have the great equalizer in the lucky nade. To sum up what I am saying is Guards long range Performance is BS as they have utility, EHP, DPS, along with the potential to merge with conscripts. Guards should be toned down. The performance between the other LR squads should be looked at as they aren't quite as balanced as the short range squads. Video Guards win 50%, Airborne 0%, Commandos with camo 25%, Paras 25% In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Guards vs Airborne Long Range7 Aug 2022, 13:45 PM Jump back to quoted post7 Aug 2022, 12:42 PMSkysTheLimit Yeah but that's an intended effect of the ptrs. The part about them doing full damage on a hit ignoring heavy cover isn't, but at least the chance of that is still low, since the RA bonus still applies There's lots of ways to destroy cover. Especially in late engagements. Indirect fire, AT guns, etc But, as you said earlier it requires a lot of RNG for the PTRS shots to hit. Yet even with that RNG, the testing done by GONK showed that they won 50% of the time under probably the best conditions for Obers as they are behind indestructible green cover. To put it another way, a Generalist elite with the cheapest muni cost performs the best against arguably the best LR AI infantry in the game. Airborne 3DPS get soundly beat, LMG Paras perform ok despite arriving at 3CP and 120muni while LMG Commandos needed to fire out of camo to perform ok. All these units are AI only with limited utility, they should be rewarded with better performance in their intended role. Gonk only ran a handful of tests but a pattern was clearly seen. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Guards vs Airborne Long Range7 Aug 2022, 12:38 PM Jump back to quoted post6 Aug 2022, 21:09 PMSkysTheLimit I mean, it's still a lot of RNG. The chance to hit Obers with ptrs is extremely low, especially in heavy cover It's about a 18% chance of hitting Ober models at long range, and that's without heavy cover The problem is you are only taking into account if the PTRS hit the Ober squad. Even if the shot hits the sand bag that is a successful shot as enough shots will make it a cover vs no cover situation. In most late engagements the sandbags/green cover will already be damaged so alot of these matches will favor Guards fairly quickly. Going back to Airborne vs Guards part of the reason DPs were made so weak was due to Guards vet and PTRS performance. Airborne Guards should have received a slightly stronger variant or had better ACC/cool down VET to show that they were the LMG specialist. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Guards vs Airborne Long Range5 Aug 2022, 22:57 PM Well that is rather sad, I personally tend to avoid Guards because their AT+button just seemed to make everything to easy. I didn't know they were performing so well. Gonk made another comparing different LMG squads vs Obers and Airborne LMG performed the worse. That just seems absurd for the price and muni cost along with lack of utility. The fact that guards were able to win seems to be a really big miss from the balance team, them winning 50% of the time was asinine. Things like this really do reinforce the perception that specific builds and commanders were favored when balancing the game. Sorry for rant. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Guards vs Airborne Long Range4 Aug 2022, 19:44 PM I saw a recent video by Gonk where he compared these units and found the Reg Guards to be stronger at long range despite the fact that Airborne on paper have better weapons. (3 SVT/3 DP vs 2 Mosin/2 PTRS/2 DP) I understand that Guards PTRS are different from penals but in the video he made a statement that their PTRS do full damage behind cover instead of half. Is that true and is that a bug? It would help explain as to why Guards seem to do so well against everything especially as their PTRS when they miss can still destroy cover. I know it is to late for balance but it could be easily fixed in a bug patch along with the bren movement bug for UKF. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Ability cost scaling4 Aug 2022, 19:35 PM Jump back to quoted post4 Aug 2022, 17:02 PMBasedSecretary I am not talking about specific doctrine with Panzer Tactician (I do not even remember the ones that DO have it). I am merely defending my philosophical ground on this: it's not fair to consider something "overperforming" and in order to tone it down you decide to selectively and arrogantly increase its muni tax "just bcz omg its so op". Because, and I say it again, this is a double edged sword. The same case could be made for the Mark Vehicle mechanic (the ONLY reason Guards Coordination is no1 DOCTRINE FOR SOVIETS ACROSS ALL GAME MODES). If you want to go down that route, I propose making Mark Target 240muni against Heavies, 150muni against Mediums and the default 80muni for everything else. How does that sound? Huh? How about them apples? I think you need to work on reading comprehension as you are talking about a specific doctrine when it comes to soviet repairs. Panzer Tactician is available with heavies which opens it up to the cost scaling argument. I also made the case for Mark Target being another overly cost efficient ability that should be subject to scaling so I like them apples I guess. Jump back to quoted post4 Aug 2022, 18:36 PMHannibal Definitely there are some downsides to it. There will be concessions to make as in the example of the button ability. However, the button ability is definitely not an analogous form of things like Panzer Tactitian or Vehicle Repairs. It only exists on one single unit and the ability is integral to the design of Guards. The cost of Guards can reflect how useful they should be against heavies. It doesn't cover all the bases, but you can tune a couple of knobs very specifically. That's not the case for abilities that are handed out generally to a wide variety of different units. While what your saying is true, Button + Mark Target are great in 1v1 but they scale incredibly in larger game modes. Button! cost the same and last the same amount of time no matter what is on the receiving end. It is a great ability from the moment it is available as it allows any mistake to be amplified unless some type of smoke is available. It should cost more vs Heavies or have a shorter active time. None of this is taking into account the performance of guards which I actually want to make a thread about and would like to hear your thoughts. In: COH2 Gameplay
Thread: Ability cost scaling4 Aug 2022, 16:13 PM The right doctrine Based is talking about is probably one of the worst doctrines in the game unless you are playing arranged teams and taking advantage with the heaviest of vehicles. Hannibals argument is against an ability that provides greater cost to benefit ratio for more expensive vehicles and said ability is found in multiple doctrines and useful in all game modes. Pretty much your counter argument makes no sense. As for Hannibals argument, while I agree with it, can cause a slippery slope. The best example would be "Mark Target" as it does the exact same thing. It doesn't provide much against smaller units such as LV upto all 4 shot MED tanks. However once you get to the Panther and heavier it creates a situation where it takes 1 less shot to kill(sometimes 2 depending on tank). With the prevalence of snares it can be quite disproportionate on the value of the ability. The much larger issue is that most doctrines with Mark Target also have Guards who have access to Button. So you get into a situation where abilities synergize a bit to well and we get to where we are now. (Guards doctrines are over picked) In: COH2 Gameplay
Thread: GG with fellow forum member26 Jul 2022, 20:06 PM We had great start, we got blobbed back and slowly forced our way back in the game. Looking back I messed up by not blobbing back and tried to separate my Penals into teams and got caught out of position. Which they used to double team Katukov which then snowballed into us losing both fuels. IT was looking bleak until Riqqa got double PG wipe in one Katy barrage. That opened up left side of the map which we slowly used to open them up and slowly pick away. Katukov had Vet3 IS2 with 60+ kills I had 3 SU85 Vet3 at the end Riqqa/Katukov planes kept their infantry in check Axis OKW had me and riqqa messed up with his Sturmtiger rush, I eventually switched to left side since SU85 is fairly clumsy. Jagdtiger did great job of zoning us out, eventually caught it out of postion and Katukov helped keep me safe while I killed it. In: Replays
Thread: 7 Land mattresses for the win25 Jul 2022, 16:34 PM By the end of the game both brits had 3 land mats each and I recrewed 1 for 7 total. Several drops below 30FPS despite having a decent system(3700x/3070). I had a bad start lost several units, noticed OKW went SMG VG so started spamming Triple DP Airborne. We dominated them K/D wise but they just did a better job with map control. OST spammed opel truck, which allowed him to get several expensive tanks but once he lost his army to arty he pretty much went tank only. I kept making arty which they made several pushes to get sight and destroy. Last 2 mins of the game massive tank push by axis and they lost 5 panthers/tiger/KT. In: Replays