Profile of TarpMada

Well summarized.
I do not get it otherwise. I will keep playing and having fun. The fact that there are some more commanders and skins out there will not really bother me. So I do not care about the pricing. Some will buy, some not. Fine. So be it. Nothing to be upset about.
unless: balancing is fucked up
unless: greed of possession

Greed of possession for assuming it'd be feasible to afford the entire CoH2 experience? That's not apologism in the least. How foolish to expect that CoH2 would remain competitive with other RTS games so far as pricing and content is concerned.

Yeah it's a shame people buy this stuff but over time I do feel it generates ill-will towards SEGA/Relic. We may be a vocal minority but I was in the vocal minority that bitched about Oblivion's horse armor and now that shit's infamous. I personally have not purchased anything since my CE, I won't for quite a long while either.

It's a rather unacceptable business model in my eyes; f2p DLC model added onto a full priced, retail, game. There's gonna be a lot more of me waiting for complete copies of SEGA's strategy games on steam sales in the future. I learned my lesson, SEGA/Relic doesn't value their fanbases' support.

Oh boy, this is kind of hard for me to accept and I'm not sure who's responsible for it: SEGA or Relic? On the one hand, similar bullshit with DLC has occurred with Total War but on the other hand SEGA hasn't been opposed to supporting other PC titles with free DLC (e.g.: if you had purchased Renegade Ops by its first Christmas, the week of Christmas SEGA gave all buyers of Renegade Ops its Coldstrike Campaign DLC free of charge, Sonic Racing Transformed has received 2 free PC DLC characters before paid DLC has even showed up). As such it's hard to know exactly who's making what call, how much Relic has a say independent of SEGA?

Overall though I'm a big SEGA fan and a big Relic fan, and that's why these abuses are hard for me to swallow. I don't feel the fanbase is being treated fairly by these prices, at all. I spent $100 on CE, which ended up rather useless and a waste of money (frankly $40 above retail should absolutely be a DLC season pass given the CE includes almost nothing else of note). I rarely buy games at launch, as I'm a college student on a fixed income, but felt it particularly important to support the sequel to what I considered one of the best games ever. So I did for this game.

Now there's this:


which isn't all of it, this is all of it:

skins (48 * $1.99) = $95.52
+ faceplates (4 * $1.99) = $7.96
+ ToW expansions (2 * $9.99) = $19.98
+ cost of commanders = (11 * $2.99) + (8 * $3.99) = $64.81

Total (just DLC, not counting base game) = $188.27

Obviously this counts the Theatre of War DLC, which I don't mind at all. The skins however? Whilst I'd be fine with skins in theory, it should be $1.99 for all vehicles, charging separately for class of vehicle is just ludicrous. They aren't finished yet either, so assuming you bought at $59.99 you're now $248.26 into CoH2. Completely unacceptable, if they wanted to do DLC like this it needed to be a free2play game. The commanders are even worse, as they are distinctly linked to the competitive multiplayer aspect of this game and serve to undermine its credibility. It's hard to argue a game's multiplayer should be taken seriously when there's a very valid argument to be had about pay2win and player inequalities based on DLC.

I've supported Relic through a lot of the mistakes made with CoH2, I've attempted to be understanding of the position they came from under THQ's financial duress. The questionable performance of the game, the lack of SLI/Crossfire, initial balance issues (which I expected and find their improvements in this regard totally satisfactory)....

The lesson? GotY/Complete packs of all future SEGA RTS games for $10-15 on Steam sales. I don't care if I have to wait 2 or 3 years.


P.S.: Sorry Relic employees if these decisions are coming out of SEGA, in that case not much you guys can do and its up to us as consumers to deem this business model sub-standard.

I think the number of female t34 tank drivers is probably exaggerated in CoH2 but I prefer the female voice for the t34, it reminds me of a slightly odd sounding version of my GPS. So I guess it makes sense for a vehicle? I don't know.

Not a supporter of feminism by any means, outside of probably first wave but none the less, I like the t34's female voice.

you guys are both off base on the issue and you both are derailing the thread.
Sega apologized for any hurt the campaign caused and it was a smart move by them.

The last thing the publisher of a GAME wants is to spark heated debates about the precise details of a war atrocity. Which is why the entire jewish holocaust is never fully addressed throughout all of CoH1 and CoH2.

Look for an edition of CoH2 with no campaign in it to address the concerns brought up in the past.

Nah, fuck that. People who own the game and refuse to even try the campaign and yet sit there and try to judge it? That's the definition of dumbass. No excuses. I don't even feel CoH2's representation of the Soviet's was grotesque. I know games typically ignore war crimes committed by America so it may seem there's a double standard but it's neither here nor there because Shifty didn't even play the single, so his opinion is 100% irrelevant.