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You act like a Soviet weapon team can just sit there, soak grenadier damage and continue on with life like nothing is happening. This just isn't the case. Even grens flanking a team will force a retreat more often than not. The weapon team simply has no way to truly combat the grens.

Soviet teams don't need less men nor do they need increased small arms damage taken or pgrens will simply shred them with no chance of escape.

Likewise German weapon teams don't need more armor because then they'd be too resilient to flanks and small arms fire. Flanking weapon teams should be more than enough to dislodge them, I shouldn't also have to throw a grenade because they have elite armor.

Also, the weapon teams ARE balanced with crew size in mind, contrary to what you seem to think Nullist. Zis barrage can be cute but at the end of the day I'd take a PaK's higher rate of fire. A maxim can pack up and move faster but an mg42 denies more territory with less micro. German mortar puts out a lot more damage but is a lot more fragile. This is fine, the weapon teams are fine. You're wrong.

How many people need to disagree with you before it'll get through your thick skull that you're just wrong? Cuz right now... most of this thread disagrees with you.

The weapon teams are fine at 4/6 men. Generally speaking German weapons are better, but more fragile, this is fine. Grens flanking any Soviet team will force a retreat unless you totally mess up micro vs a maxim, but that's on you. Pgs already demolish sov weapon teams way harder than any Soviet infantry can do to Germans. Plus there are already plenty of other counters that Germans can employ. G43, sniper, mortars, fht... etc etc. Nullist you can just stop now. Go waste your time in other threads because nothing about German weapon teams except for counter barrage needs changed. You're just wrong.

Also always amusing watching nullist cry ad hominem when he does exactly the same shit. Always so hypocritical lols.

I agree with you that Industry needs to be nerfed, and I don't want to put words in Relic's mouth - perhaps Noun or some one could make an official comment if they please but my assumption from my experience in IT is that they can't always just throw out a hotfix. There is a long process that has to be followed to ensure everything flows smoothly. Yes I wish that there had already been a patch as I've all but given up queueing German in automatch this patch, but I can understand that they have to go through the proper channels to get things accomplished.

Just my assumption though. I could be wildly wrong xD. Either way, nerfing industry cannot come soon enough in my opinion.

I have a question instead of making so many drastic changes to the vehicle scatter system and moving the TA to 8 cps why dont you just completely rework the commanders ??

I believe the goal of the scatter change is to reduce the effectiveness of all tanks on the move versus infantry - which in my opinion is a good change. This should increase the use and need for combined arms sort of strategies instead of just being able to rush for tanks because once tanks are on the field infantry become significantly less useful. The idea of increasing scatter on moving vehicles has been around since before the existence of Soviet Industry, so it is not directly the result of that doctrine or any doctrine for that matter.

Hopefully this will require there to be infantry around to fight off other infantry while tanks support/flank/etc instead of tanks being mobile death machines with infantry following the wake of corpses to capture territory. I dunno, seems like a good change overall to me.

On 81/82mm Mortar, again, Ost has better rate of fire, and Sov has a (stat guys halp!) better AoE. I dont honestly know about accuracy difference. Not on topic, but I think Sov Mortar may need a buff in comparison (Warning: Precision Strikes absolute accuracy. But since its for Muni, Im ok with that. Its Counter Barrage that sucks in comparison).
But again, shouldnt these two units be balanced according to their rate of fire, accuracy and AoE, NOT on unit size?

I believe that the German and Soviet 81/82mm mortars are identical in terms of damage/aoe/penetration/etc - the only difference being German fires more rapidly and has a 4 man squad. Soviet fires more slowly, but has a 6 man squad.

Overall the Soviet mortar generally performs significantly better. It is shooting at 4 man squads and as such has a stupid amount of potential to instantly kill a German squad. Vet 1 precision strike is pretty much a guaranteed de-crew of a German weapon team while counter-barrage is really pretty useless (it needs to increase range, or something).

Maxims are insanely overpowered in their current state and MG42s as terrible/borderline useless. Even outside of MG42s just being statistically awful at the moment, Molotovs pretty much force an instant retreat of an MG42 while a Maxim can soak 2-3 rifle grenades while suppressing three German squads from three different angles.

Don't even get me started on DShKs...

Also the fact that 6 man squads are so vastly superior to 4 man squads.