It’s nice to see a lot of adequate comments about the problem of usf. The last tournament helped to make sure of this even more. |
statistic says they are very good in both 1 vs 1 and 2 vs 2 + https://www.coh2.org/news/92866/automatch-stats-factions-teams-and-maps
Tournaments show better statistics. Because noobs do not play there
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apparetly u are very concerned to support a know troll who ignores stats and invents patch notes changes and spam threads
but i guess number of troll is the only way u can prove that rifle are bad cause stats says otherwise so u gotta stick with the fan boy group to create a band wagon argument
the dps curve is quite clear,rifle beat volks
Statistics say that usf have big problems. 0 wins at Anniversary classic, the worst performance in the 2vs2 Masters Cup. |
apparetly u are very concerned to support a know troll who ignores stats and invents patch notes changes and spam threads
but i guess number of troll is the only way u can prove that rifle are bad cause stats says otherwise so u gotta stick with the fan boy group to create a band wagon argument
the dps curve is quite clear,rifle beat volks
As I said, Rifleman Cost is unreasonably high, given that they do not have access to the bar, grenades, and bags. And the faust should be available after calling the lieutenant or captain. |
I tell u what is needed, that u stop making troll thread ,don’t ignore stats and stop spreading misinformation or u are gonna get banned
Apparently, you are very concerned about posts in support of the usf faction |
The problem is high cost.
280mp and one model 28. This drains your mp when you fend off volk for 250/25 mp.
Also, additional costs are needed to access the grenades and the bar. Sand bags in the doctrine. And every new rifleman does not have a faust. He needs vet1.
However, the volks also have sand bags, flame grenades. And access to the STG and Faust opens when T2 is built. |
The stats might be useful to el professor but useless for balance discussion.
When it’s not in favor of your favorite faction, then yes - useless |
Here's one of the few replays involving good players in an OKW vs USF matchup:
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El Profesor 17.09
VonIvan
At the six minute mark, the Damage/kills/deaths are:
OKW 3233 23 11
USF 1950 11 23
So somehow the units with better DPS manage to do about 60% of the damage and less than half the kills. Maybe you should give this player some tips because you clearly know more than he does. Also, this wasn't one of his test/troll builds.
At the 12 minute mark, the numbers are:
OKW 9350 52 39
USF 7970 39 56
USF is trading okay as mid game units come out.
The final stats were:
OKW 61717 175 189
USF 66036 189 182
Once the Jackson came out, USF started trading well. The pack howie was helpful for awhile but eventually wiped and not recrewed, but VonIvan got a Scott so the pack howie wasn't needed. Also, the other player built five MG34's, only one Raketen, and no JPIV's, which seem like strange choices. He also didn't cap the bottom VP until around 8 minutes which probably affected the outcome of the game.
VonIvan was down to 27 VP's when he won. Had the other player maintained his early game dominance for just another minute (or capped the bottom VP earlier) then he would not have won. That's a razor-thin margin, even for a good player.
This was on a wide map. Narrow ones like Alliance are worse.
Maybe "glass" isn't the right term for rifles and RA isn't what is important, but they're not good early game against OKW and get wiped too easily in team games once rocket arty comes out.
It was interesting to see VonIvan get a Stuart and use it.
I love numbers) They give clarity and allow you to see real problems. |
“Oh and a Jackson(which half the forum wants deleted from the game)”.
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Soviets + brits offer a much better combination of power and lategame. The pak howi may be too strong and so may be the jackson, but early game USF is always rifleman rifleman rifleman etc. Why do that when you can just buy the same amount of sections/penals and they roll everything far better.
Furthermore the USF doctrines are pretty meh outside of priest. There isn't anything there that matches the hilarious power levels of Jaegar armor/Spec ops/Guardrifle combined.
TL : DR Units may be too strong, faction overall still lacking certain things other factions have.
And what do you think the USA lacks?
Your words are strange, a faction can have very strong units, but at the same time its still lose. |