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If I recall in beta Brummbar has already received an armour nerf and its barrage ability now costs munitions |
Assgrens with smoke grenade at vet 1. Just do it. 
I think their Vet 1 is already quite good, but if they did decide to give assault gren smoke grenade maybe make it a purchasable upgrade in a certain battlephase?
Otherwise you can use Strategic Reserves Doctrine and support Assault Gren With Panzergren who can provide smoke, currently |
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I just think VSL grens should be given a different ability besides the free medkit upgrade. With the cost reduction of medkits to 10 munitions that is already very cheap, and IMO makes this ability redundant.
And with so many people on this forum saying VSL gren are not very good compared to lmg42 grens or g43s grens any more, I think they could use some other small ability or small buff to actually make the upgrade a viable choice that can at least compete with the standard lmg42 upgrade, which I don't see why the upgrade should even exist in a doctrine if it's not going to be good.
Also it is just a shame to see so many people saying it's not good any more because I really enjoyed the upgrade (the stg for squad lead is a nice touch though and I think is a good change) |
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What it just means Osttruppen can actually hit things with their lmg42 upgrade. They're compensating for their previous nerfs |
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Why not replace the free medkits bonus for VSL grens with something else then? Especially now that medkits are even cheaper, this ability is a bit redundant imo |
how is it worse? Dps increase is not all their is to an upgrade. 7thm man is redgard fine by most, and insanely op according to some.
Vsl adresses a certain weakness of grens. Survivability and field presence. They dont need nor should be 5 men terminators, ost has plenty strong ai options already. And 4 men lng grens do well at range esp shen supported.
Indevidual grenadier models are very strong imo, strongest out of all mainlines again imo. just slapping one extra k98 in their has a lot more impact then slapping a conscript model with mosin in their on a cons squad.
I'm not the one saying it's bad other people are. And so I wasn't sure if it is bad or good because I'm low xp. If it is still a viable choice great! That's exactly what I'm hoping for. It just happens to he my favorite gren upgrade so I would be sad if it is not good. |
vsl can function as budget(lol?) osttruppen where they distract and give vision to your sniper, the only reason to pick this if somehow you need osttruppen-like grenadiers and stormtroopers. Command p4 will have probably had access to light artillery when the patch comes live.
I just don't see the point in having a doctrinal upgrade to grens that is the same price as lmg42 but worse
P4 Command Tank isn't getting light artillery |
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At this poibt I am waiting for beta to go live before doing 2v2 pvp again. I feel that if I go back to old pvp I will be unprepared and then I will also not be prepared for pvp when the beta goes live, of which the changes to the game seem very big to me
Also doesn't help I need to find the time to dedicate to the game. But if I can, I look forward to this new update going live |
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Oh okay. I thought they did because of the scopes but I guess it depends on which infantry gets the upgrade
And also I am a noob but I am a little concerned that the p4 command tank has lost its blitzkrieg ability for it is very weak in defenses and could use blitzkrieg to get out of trouble, which is why I thought giving it armor skirts might be a good idea. However maybe it is perfectly fine how it is.
And hopefully vsl grens get just a little more tuning but I am not a skilled player only rank 7 in pvp anyway so my opinions are not very relevant. My opinion on vsl is this: if vsl is bad like some people on this forum are claiming it is, what is the point in having a doctrinal upgrade for grens that is worse than the lmg42?
Going to point out that now there are only two commanders with access to light artillery. Just my two cents. Still, looking forward to beta going live, looks promising. Pvp when beta goes live looks exciting and for the most part really liking the new content in beta. It's a lot of fun to test it with friends owo |
Not really, at all
Yes, they are Panzergrenadiers G43, very good, but only come with Elite troops
That is sad to hear. I hope they buff vsl grens a little bit
Good to know. Do gr43's grant extra site to all infantry who use the upgrade? |
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