I mean doesn't 5 man grens help with the staying power a good amount? Like you don't get the DPS boost from the MG42 but with 5 men it's harder to lose grens and they have more health to stay in the fight.
Tbh I don't really get all these calls to buff VSL again. Like we just got out of them being the dominating meta with the last patch and they are still a pretty common 1v1 commander. Do we really need to buff them and risk making them the meta again?
The change from a G43 to an STG was a good nerf, but I believe it is because of the RA nerf which they no longer have that people are concerned about for their staying power. As well as other aspects of the doctrine being more appealing in other commanders now
Which is why I suggested the idea of allowing them to place sandbags. I really don't think giving a mainline the ability to place sandbags upgraded after 2CP is over the top. A point I saw people making was that Osttruppen have the staying power of VSL grens and can place sandbags as well
Just because VSL is supposedly being taken out of the meta why should the upgrade not be viable?
VSL Grenadiers 5 men redundant , Giving them slight target size or RA bonus plus couple of minor utilities (fast cap, diverse .etc..)tied to veterancy more logical.
Name is "veteran squad leader" it has to have vet leader.
Or
VSL Upgrade gives;
one sniper model to squad as a leader with LMG 34 or 42
buffing squads weapon aim time ,Rate of fire or LMG Burst buff
With RA Bonus But expensive Reinforcement cost and time (semi Obers)...
While I agree, I think VSL grens could use some tuning to remain competitive, I think those buffs are a little too much. Also they already receive a ROF improvement upon upgrading
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You do give me an idea to an
Unpopular Opinion though, that Panzergren should possibly be able to upgrade to an lmg34 instead of G43s. I know people say this contradicts the point of them since they are supposedly meant to fire on the move, but I have seen them use dropped lmg's quite effectively, including in ranked matches I have viewed from high rank players. And this would also be historically accurate for the unit, and probably would be a more useful long range upgrade than a G43s which some argue is redundant as well. Just a thought, and not something I would see implemented any time soon
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