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you do not get guards for the d p 28 you get them for the p t r s and the button not the actual light machine gun |
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I would like to point out that German Fausts comes for free on gren squads, Soviet AT nade needs to be researched for 125 mp and 25 fuel.
Same cost, same range, same damage, same engine crits. yet german one are for free, if you want to complain about anything complain about that. |
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you could add this in, but you would probably have already chosen a different doctrine by the time you realized he has strafe.
Or you could make strafe balanced..... |
The SU-85 in it's current state is entirely unacceptable.
It snipes Infantry - This should be once in a blue moon not every second hit.
i require some sort of proof of this, no one ever stated its AI was too high untill 1 person said it and everyone jumped on the bandwagon. i went out and tested this, on average it killed an infantry member every 7 shots. almost never getting a double kill.
Vid or you are simply a wagon roady |
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The only problem with delaying the SU-85 even longer means the P4 will have a much greater window to lock down the map, as we all know, going t 4 locks out any other option from t3.
A good solution is buffing the su-85 hp and rear armour and increasing its cost to about 150 fuel, but also raise the su 76 to about 70 ish fuel and buff its armour, and most importantly the Main gun so it when micro'd really well can take out/delay the p4's rampage right now you move it up, barrage and retreat back to base in case a pio looks at it funny and make the whole thing explode |
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Excellent suggestion Nullist, this would indeed solve alot of Soviets AT problems when you do not get t4, it would also allow for more versatile strats to be formulated instead of being forced to get 1 of the 2 types of AT they currently have.
I think a large problem to the muni float early to mid game comes from a sever lack of upgrades. all the upgrades so far are fuel/mp, molotovs, AT nade, healers.
Germans get the LMG42 for example something quite powerfull that makes you think, hmm should i spend this muni's for edge in the infantry war or do i need it in a little while.
One suggestion is giving the PPSH upgrade to all conscripts and replace the doctrinal ones with something else (like the g43's) for a muni's cost. something that stays in the game, not a activated ability(god knows soviets have to many of those) |
crells explained it perfectly. cost wise it's hard to value a t-34 right now. from a historical standpoint. there was like a 5 to 1 ratio of t-34s to p4s in the war. i'd say do one or two things. make fuel for t-34 cost 65-80 (balancing act here so that t-70s are still used at all based on cost) or as crells suggested earlier: give t-34's a munition upgrade which turns that tank into a t-34/85
Thanks Warmoneky, but credit where credit due, Nullist sugested the upgunning of the t34 for a Muni's cost, which i think is a marvelous idea, though i think 100 is quite alot, i would think 80 would be more fair. |
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Nullist this has been pointed out over and over again, people do not want an equivalent they want proper costing and a viability, IF it got better at dealing with armour the price would go up, like 5 or 10 fuel, 105 fuel vs 115 fuel means there will be no spamming of T-34s, or if there price was reduced but ram changed to stop that retarded ram fest in beta. What is the issue is the fact that the T 34 does NOT behave like a 95 fuel investment, this is what people are complaining about. yes it "can" work but it is over costed for its effectiveness.
I have a level of respect for your generally open mindedness but in this thread you seem very out of wack defending the huuge gap between the T 34 and the P4 for the very very minor fuel gap of 20 fuel |
Did you deliberately ignore the IS-2's AoE?
Yee, I think you did.
Your adjustments would completely break armor combat in favor of Sov.
If you want Ost equal armor, then play as Ost.
Thats all well and good to say Nullist but the fact remains it is the most expensive tank in the game. I am all for geting worse tanks but more of them, however making it worse AND more expensive = durp |
ok man, take it easy. i just stated my point of view and you disagree with it, i respect that. fact is i have had games when i used t34s and they worked really well, even if they are fragile and are weaker than ostheer t3.
Despite a lot of peoples attitude in saying it is a gloried battering ram everyone here knows the tank works, ram with support will kill most german tanks out there.
The problem a lot of people are having is the fact that it is very cost ineffective, you can skip t3 get t4 and only 20 fuel later get an awesome su-85, getting a t34-76 does not feel as rewarding as it should for spending 90 for t3 and 95 for the tank.
Let me put it like this why do very few german's buy the stug atm, it is not really a "bad" tank it is simply not as cost effective as the P4. yes the stug can kill other tanks with support but why bother when you feel much more rewarded with a P4 |
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