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Question: would it not be better to make the vikers perform like 50 cal or a much more mobile MG42 than buffing IS??
I feels this gonna create OP IS blobs of doom again since they are now better while moving and 2 still just as strong while standing. |
This is why we cant have nice things...
Yes, the stens are a copy of assault engineer greaseguns. Yes, this was stated in the initial release notes for tommies. Yes, they are identical in combat stats to assault engineers at minute 0. Yes, thompson upgraded assault tommies have the same DPS as thompson upgraded cav rifles. No, assault engineers are not problematic right now. No, cav rifles are not problematic now.
When did i say can rifles were problematic. The truth is i was severely wrong on what weapon they use, and I am ashamed and sorry.
However here is the thing section are like volks(now more so ok in attack and strong in defense) so the price of ass sections should be like sturms or even penals. |
Do you know how DPS works? They don't do 82.5 DPS at all ranges. Pgrens are much more flexible with how little their dps drops off in comparison. They also turn into terminators at vet 3.
Assault Tommies have been in the game for months now and it's established that their pretty much balanced. If they need a delay in timing to pgren timing so be it.
But their stats are anything but OP, they get munched late game by vet axis elites.
yes i and everyone knows how dps works m8. Boy if you think the dps of pg's drop little than you have no idea how little bar or fg42's dps drops with range. |
Where did you got that numbers from?
Because 5x13,4 is not 82,5.
New assault section is literally Assault Engineers with different upgrade.
Yeah sorry I totally forgot the tommy_sten_smg_mp |
From the original changelog:
Gives the squad 2 Thompson SMGs and arms the rest with Sten Guns and No.77 White Phosphorous Grenades, and removes their Out-of-Cover penalties; Sten Guns use Assault Engineer Grease Gun stats.
Their identical stats can be seen in the mod tools. In fact, the "tommy_9mm_sten_gun_mp" file is in the AEF folder, with the grease gun, because they forgot to change the folder when they copied it.
I really hope your right about that. otherwise it's dum. |
From the original changelog:
Gives the squad 2 Thompson SMGs and arms the rest with Sten Guns and No.77 White Phosphorous Grenades, and removes their Out-of-Cover penalties; Sten Guns use Assault Engineer Grease Gun stats.
Their identical stats can be seen in the mod tools. In fact, the "tommy_9mm_sten_gun_mp" file is in the AEF folder, with the grease gun, because they forgot to change the folder when they copied it.
wait new version of an existing weapon can be made??? |
They don't start with Thompsons, so it's 67.2 dps at 0cp. This is higher than Assault Grenadiers, but they start with sprint.
Assault Sections are identical to Assault Engineers at spawn, and those don't really overperform.
No mate each sten is 16.5 dps, a thompson is 18.7 . they are not the same as ass engies. Get your facts right.
Sorry, I was wrong and misinformed. |
Yes this is strange addition. They can say is limited to 1. But imo 1 is more than enough. Pg also is not as good closing in than commando or shocks. This seems op. I bet the 5 man vet needs to drop.
Why cant we keep things simple and have a smg in weapon rack?
Overall ukf buffs clearly pushed wehr down to bottomest feeders. If they aren't already
Does the dot flame nerf also affect flame pios, fht and hetzer?
I find it weird that they nerfed the niche units (Mortat HT's) only good ability that was only useful for 1 job (dealing with emplacements). Yes why not make the completely no skill play of placing emplacements more rewarding, whilst also making them better on the attack.
This whole balance preview just feels incompetent. |
Changes for Ostheer which I’d like to see:
- 60 muni Panzershrek package available to Pioneers if T1 and T2 are up (mutually exclusive with flamer, can be purchased regardless of sweeper)
- StuGG rotation rate increase
- Puma added to HQ and available once BP2 is researched (in the mobile Defense doctrine)
- Ostheer T4 building price increased by 150mp/20fuel, brings free Grenadier and Pioneer medkits at vet 0, 5% XP gain for all vehicles and allows building of Wehrmacht Officer (or Hauptmann) (4 man squad with Kar98s, can call in air recon run like UKF officer, can supervise building to increase production speed or supervise vehicle to improve repair times, has 45 sight)
looks like someone has been playing coh1 recently. |
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can i ask why brits get a 0cp 280 mp squad with 82.5 dps 66.3 dps???? while ost only get one with 51 dps????? what kind of retarded imbalance is this??? even cav rifles have less dps and still require 1 command pointsCav rifles have same dps and still require 1 cp. Like why do they get to have 0 cp 280mp units that are stronger than panzer grens.
New ass tommies vs Pgrens:
EHP: 400 v 400
dps: 66.3 v 62
vet: +40% acc -36% ra -25% cd v +40% acc -29% ra -25% cd
What the fucking hell.
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