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Thread: Königstiger buff13 Feb 2020, 09:08 AM Jump back to quoted post13 Feb 2020, 06:06 AMCODGUY I'd be fine buffing the tank and even making it a little cheaper but they'd have to make it limited to one or two doctrines. The fact that it's in every doctrine is part of the reason why it's not that great for such an expensive tank. Yeah NO!... its part of the okw design to win the first engagment and have the best lategame Tanks ... thats of the cost of having a weak midgame, and have to grind ur units to vet5 to be viable in the late game. If u cut the lategame Tanks which are have be just better as the allied counterparts why would u even play OKW? In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Tank Destroyer Poll8 Feb 2020, 09:54 AM Jump back to quoted post8 Feb 2020, 03:49 AMKubelecer I don't know how you can call Jackson "the hardest to dive" out of all allied factions. USF is already the easiest faction to dive because USF has: No nondoc mines that give engine damage(I don't count those garbage 10 muni mines that slow that noone uses) Limited AT nade(no vet1+ rifles no at nade) Bad handheld AT(zook) Bad AT gun against prem mediums and up. While soviets and brits have: Nondoctrinal mines that give engine damage More available AT nade(debatable for brits as there's not many RE squads, but if they are they are probably near the tank.) Very good AT guns. Soviets might have PTRS penals with satchels. Soviets might have Guards with button vehicle that is extremely potent against unsupported tanks. Soviets might have one of many other AT commander abilities. Firefly can stun and blind tanks from a long range SU-85 CAN SELF SPOT(people seriously underestimate this ability, which also means it will see the dive coming) If your argument is that jackson can just drive away, guess what so can both firefly and SU-85, and those factions have way easier access to long range vision. Because it is. U just drive backwards with lightspeed and Shoot HIT and PEN the other Tank. And there are only 2 Axis tanks that would dive. P4 which get buttfucked doing so. Cause of its overall worse arcos the board. And the Panther ... which is debatable. And its going to be boring nowadys... all of us know that's 60TD Meta is a think and it needs to get adressed. especially the Jackson with no weaknees in any form. But if u are another Jackson Fanboy.. just go for some games as axsis in maybe 2v2 and try youreself to dive it Yeah that's BS. When the Jackson hits the field ur inf is vet 3 and have at nades. Why is the AT Gun bad ? it has a great firering arc and for mun uf have goodlike PEN. U can drop it out of to doctrins... Jump back to quoted post8 Feb 2020, 04:22 AMCODGUY All three of these TDs are mostly fine. Jackson could use more sight, Firefly could use a MP reduction from 440 to 400, both should be no more than 14 pop. Other than that they're fine. SU-85 is fine as is. good idea and the crew are vet 3 paratrooper. and HE shell... and T34 Calliope rocketlauncher In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Tank Destroyer Poll7 Feb 2020, 22:17 PM 1. The Micro Tax Like the Brum the Jackson get's a Micro Tax... so just remove his crew and popout ability. It current Stat's stay the same but the USF Player is forced to repair it with RE or other Crew. - no more Inf Spam in Jackons cause u need the repair to stay in Combat - will punch as hard as now but no more instant pop out and quick Combat readiness and more "Time of the Field" - general more micro required to use this unit over a long time. - More MP required to stay in combat via RE or other Crew's u have to build another Vehicle for Crew repair. 2. Range to 50 - Get it in Range of other waepons and tanks - no more safe first strikes - Heavy Tanks an Med can fight back while Jackson has the same Firepower - More likely to get shots from Pak 40 and Raketen 3. nerf of pen, acc and rof pretty simple... 4. the glascannon reduce its Armor and Health significant. - it shouldend be a no brainer to use this TD pretty simple... I think at least two of these are nessecary to realy change something In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Swapping the P4 with the werfer6 Feb 2020, 09:22 AM Jump back to quoted post6 Feb 2020, 08:28 AMWAAAGH2000 If move panzerIV to T4,shoule give some buff like increase HP because they will face TDs？ the 60TD Meta is not about HP problems, its about the effectnes zoning and beeing able to hit 2 times before axis can even react. A HP buff to P4 wouldnt change anything for axis. u can have a P4 with more HP (Tiger). The T4 units are just not good enogh. Its not a cost problem its a Power problem. Design feature of OST initial design was a faction with a Premium Tier (T4) and therefor bad commanders. SU had a round up roster but its premium parts came from very good doctrins. And that OST was a lategame faction.... but nowadays its a joke. Ur "Premium Tier is shit" and ure forced to go heavy tanks to have something against the lategame allied inf advantge and the fact that its just easier to field lost inf in the allied roster with callin inf. Its like "oh no i got a fuk well lets get some paratroper with double bar" OST: "well lets get some .... eh eh eh Osttruppen.... or a gren .." to get back to ur Werfer .... T4 need buffs to make OST more viable outside of 3vs3 and 4vs4. The funny thing is that when UKF suffers in 1v1 but not in greater Teammodes .... massives BUFFs across the board. While ost "okay here u can safe up to 200Mp in a game ... well. Maybe add a flamestrike to the werfer like the SU firearty for Mun. This would help to force off enemy teamweapons and not only "kill 1 model of a 6 Man MG/Pak" In: COH2 Gameplay
Thread: Tank Destroyer Poll5 Feb 2020, 11:46 AM Jump back to quoted post5 Feb 2020, 10:28 AMRiley Exactly. Axis fans just want easy game. When they could crush the USF from panthers and tigers, trample on the enemy like an avalanche. But Jackson does not allow this, although it has very weak armor. They also want to remove accuracy in movement, although this is a feature of all USF tanks. Bad armor, Poor health, but good accuracy in movement. There is not even a guarantee that in the battle Jackson vs Panzer 4, the M36 will win. While USF get one unit to counter easy all axis things on Wheels/tracks... and not using a combination of there tool.(like in Coh1) meanwhile axis: If you need to combine that many factors, in addition to luck (them not seeing/hearing you), as well as relying on the opponent not micro'ing properly, to just get a chance at destroying an M36 with a P4, then I'd consider that the P4 is made irrelevant by the M36. When comparing units, they need to either be on equal ground, or have their ground 'equalized' by compensating price with skill. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: COH2 winter balance mod - discussion4 Feb 2020, 12:00 PM Jump back to quoted post4 Feb 2020, 09:53 AMMithiriath Version 1.1 Changes Ostheer Tech Changes Sentiment suggests that Ostheer tier 4 is too prohibitive to use. In order to facilitate an easier transition for Ostheer T3 to T4 builds, we have implemented the following: Battlephase 2 tech from 90 fuel to 105 fuel Battlephase 3 tech from 25 fuel to 35 Support Armour Korp (T3) no longer has a fuel cost Heavy Panzer Korp (T4) building no longer has a fuel cost XP values have been adjusted accordingly. Credit to Derbyhat AKA Jibberjabber for originally proposing this change. Grenadiers Reinforce cost from 30 to 28 Pak 40 Horizontal tracking speed from 12 to 14 Brummbar Armour from 240 to 260 Panzerfaust - all variants, including OKW The speed of the Panzerfaust projectiles being lowered as an attempt to remove the issue of Panzerfausts occasionally missing their targets. Projectile speed from 55 to 25 Source: https://community.companyofheroes.com/discussion/comment/287312#Comment_287312 The T4 change must be a joke 15 fu** Fuel for the most useless Tech in game... well this will change anything of curse. This will shift the whole Meta game i mean T4 is now complete viable and u got so much value out of ur 15 Fuel .... that must be about what 1-2 mins in game. well well. Even if u vut that by 60-80 Fuel changes nothing about the unit performence. so the T4 can lose u the game 1-2 earlier ...well very good. This is just trash.... "we feel that cons are under perfor.... BUFF 7 Men" T4 is trash ... Ost gets beat up .... oh here u have 15 Fuel. The Gren change is medicore... u save maybe 200Mp total in game. its ok not much but hey... There performence against lategame allied inf IS the problem not the MP bleed... now its just a little bit cheaper to get cut into pieces. Pak buff is quite nice i dont expecting this.. but well will see what impact that causes. Brummbar** idk if that changes anything. i dont have the numbers on that. maybe some paks will bounce more or u have to pay for special ammo to pen. The problem is the heavy micro Tax and the range not the armor. In conclusion i think .... WTF is the balance Team doing here. ("Jackson nerf 5 Fuel more...") Its like this: In: COH2 Gameplay
Thread: COH2 winter balance mod - discussion31 Jan 2020, 12:06 PM Jump back to quoted post31 Jan 2020, 11:31 AMGeblobt Can we adjust the late game performance of Volks? I think they are a little bit to weak compared to other units. My suggestion is to give them better k98 at vet5 similar to infantry sections, but this could be quite diffcult to balance. The simpler solution is to give them an acc bonus on vet 4 => now they get 40% acc from vet 0->5 like most units. The only thing Volks have to do in late game is to hold back anything that trys to get to your Obers. There is no need for buffing them. They are a medicore mainline inf and that's all. There strengh is about there utility. Build cover ... force others out of cover and "fausting" that moves. For OKW there much bigger problems than volks right now. - no caches - Uhu fuckt up - Medicore doctrines - 60TD Meta - lack of At - timing and arrivel of the Flakhalftrack - Sturmtiger still bad even after a buff - .... In: COH2 Gameplay
Thread: COH2 winter balance mod - discussion31 Jan 2020, 08:58 AM Jump back to quoted post30 Jan 2020, 22:10 PMEsxile Does the vet1 camo for the raken cost muni and last only 30-40 seconds? Stugen amo cost muni, pak snipe shot cost muni, Zis barrage cost muni and I don't know what brit does have on their 6p. 5th men is there to compensate the lack of shield and I see it pretty much ok today. I think all Atguns are pretty much equal today with specific stats and bonus. Problem is more about USF late game lacking of decent team weapon counter. We've seen a lot of complaint recently about the scott. But the scott isn't a team weapon counter, it works better vs mainline infantry. I don't know how USF could get a stock saturation's barrage unit able to kill/force retreat what it aims at like the Pzf or Katy. Major's barrage is not enough today or it should be from the start powerful as if vet3 and with a damn bigger range. Second problem is you can only have one and you need it for FRP on team game or plane reco and last but not least: barrage cost ammo. Well in fact, I know how, just swap Scott and Calliope but I'm not sure Mod team will be able to. Or simply remove raketen retreat button to solve at least his issue. ok then what about - using ur supreme Inf and nades ... and maybe flank? - Pack Howie - Mortar - Mortar halftrack - 100 differnt arty abilitys - Calliope - HE Sherman - Scott(which is by far the best mobile arty in the game, when u consider that u fight against mainly 4Man untis) - Priest - Pershing - Bulldozer - .... so there is NO way to fight off team weapons! Just one Word about the Jackson Scott combo... its by far the cancerous Combo in the Game. Pick ele or JT and hope the USF player is brain afk or yolo rush with tanks... In: COH2 Gameplay
Thread: COH2 winter balance mod - discussion30 Jan 2020, 21:14 PM Jump back to quoted post30 Jan 2020, 21:11 PMKubelecer Literally 10 less range and 10 less penetration. Prove me wrong. Lets lets cut 10 Range from M36... its only 10... In: COH2 Gameplay
Thread: COH2 winter balance mod - discussion30 Jan 2020, 10:57 AM Jump back to quoted post29 Jan 2020, 18:52 PMKubelecer How about not giving them faust at all and give them a distinct weakness such as every other elite infantry squad has in the game(Obers, Shocks, Rangers, Stormtroopers, Paratroopers, Pgrens): Light vehicles. Falls are not meant to be your volk replacement like many people like to pretend they are. They are supposed to be a supplemental all range AI unit with insane ambush dps. something like 4 Man squat size and losing much Firepower and u compare them with shocks... ok and a shit doctrine... Jump back to quoted post29 Jan 2020, 18:59 PMT.R. Stormjäger Falls are a dead unit in a dead doctrine. Who cares anymore. Why get Falls when you can just get Obers and pick an actually useful doctrine lol. I love how they said they want Commander diversity, then they mega nerf the most viable non Grand Offensive commander just so you have to crutch on the Tiger 1 even harder. Another horrible decision by the balance team after Overwatch flares, the Panther murder, the Brummbar murder and the Assault Engineer murder. Hopefully these get touched upon. while buffing SU and OST T4 is still laughable Jump back to quoted post29 Jan 2020, 19:03 PMT.R. Stormjäger Luftwaffe Ground Forces needs a rework. The doctrine is lying dead in a pool of blood. Accept the failure and fix it: 1) Replace heavy fortifications with 5 man Luft Pioneer squad (210mp) with 5 Kar98s, better repair speeds, Ost minefields and trenches&heavy fortifications. 2) Remove the T4 upgrade for Falls and give them a 5th man upgrade when T4 is up. Keep them at 2 FG42s. Give them the ability to lay flare mines and schu mines. 3) Remove Valiant Assault. Replace with Ostwind. 4) Remove Ostwind from Scavenge doctrine and replace with something else. 1. its a good idea 2. Just keep them 4 Men but give them one FG with the Firepower of the 2 now and when T2 is up get them another one. Then the 1/4 Firepower drop is not so relevant and they maybe work. 3. Yes 4. Yes In: COH2 Gameplay