Whats the point in Urban defence booby traps anymore? If they cost 45 munitions and deal less damage to infantry compared to mines and useless against vehicles... what the heck their point?
Why would anyone even use booby trap compared to nondoc mines engineers have?
If their performance was unchanged their cost should've been reduced to like 15 minutions at best |
False and false, cons fight even better at longer range due to better accuracy, closing in is nonsensical and the first thing to do is take cover to max out durability.
Cons were meta in GCS2 with 520 units built compared to only 260 penal battallions.
Stop bringing up GCS its irrelevant and was mostly played against Ost light vehicles spam. Cons literally have twice less DPS at long range. Stop lying, especially if said lies are flat out stupid |
Volks always win long range against Cons. And if Cons close range against Volks they obviously lose too due to losing models on close up. Heck even if they did beat them STG upgrade makes Cons redundant as they simply lose in every situation, which is why everyone goes Penals vs OKW anyway. |
About Jaeger upgrade for Stormtroopers, I think bundle grenade should return in place of flame nade for Storms upgraded with G43's.
G43 is already a downgrade compared to Pgren STG or new Storm MP40 and it also removes tactical assault from them and Schreck+G43 is no longer an option.
It's kinda funny how doctrinal upgrade for doctrinal unit turns it into worse version of vanilla Pgren though. |
So your arguement to nerf volks is make them as bad as the worst mainline DPS unit ingame. I can see this going nowhere.
Scroll page back and you'll see my point. Volks make any other OKW unit including elite infantly pointless because it's more cost effective to just spam Volks. It's obvious STG upgrade is to blame to for this BS and the reason it's here is double BARs. Except it made Volks OP against anything else aside of 2xBARmen |
Try the MG34
Try Conscripts in comparsion to Volks |
I expected this thread to be another Axis v Allies fanboy thread but I see people who normally lean towards allies give some reasonable feedback here. I love it.
But more importantly lets add to the thread.
Say you tone down volks vet a bit so they hit slightly worse. What other crutch units are you supposed to be using? Are you supposed to get more sturmpios? MG34s? Kubels? Volks are not spammed currently just because they can deal with most threats, it's also because what else are you supposed to use?
They best solution would be getting obers on the field sooner and tuning their stats accordingly so you don't have to spam 5-6 volks into armor.
Volks are being spammed precisely because they can deal with most threats. That and absolute state of allied MG's |
Oh Vipper, by that definition every single soviet unit including engineers with flamethower and conscripts with PPSh and Penals are Shock Troops. I guess we just cant have them in doctrine called Urban DEFENSE... instead it should get Guards... because that sounds defensive enough.
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Shock Troops are non-Russian term, yes I know. I've told you several posts before that it merely refers to any sort of assault infantry... so anything else you want to add aside of repeating of what I said before?
I guess you missed the rather obvious point of my post: No such thing as "Shock troops" existed in soviet army, its English umbrella term - nothing more. |
You just claimed something about mythical Shock Troops in your previous posts and been told directly - they didnt exist.
What we have in game is literally based of assault engineer-sapper squads which is obvious from armor they are wearing.
Now that you've been told of gruesome reality of non-existance of "Shock Troops" squads you've been refencing all the time... can stop making things up? |