Profile of The_Usurper86

Both aren't worth a penny. period.

Reading between the lines it seems like your response is choose a different commander. Not at all helpful for the question at hand, but thanks for sharing.

I'd like to play devils advocate for a second and ask, What would be the drawbacks from giving cons an upgrade. Where is the potential in it ruining the balance of things? I'd like to see the reasoning for why players wouldn't want this?

I'm curious on your opinions for team games. I've been playing around with the industry tactics doctrine (I think it's called that). Seems both KV8 and KV2 are designed to wreck infantry. Is it redundant to bring them both on the field? Appears they both fill the same role. I sort of feel its better to bring out two su85's with one of either KV's to allow defenses against those heavy Axis Tanks.

What are your thoughts?

There was a huge thread about this where it seemed most people agreed something should be done to make cons late game viable. While I enjoy the idea of bundling the molly with AT snare, that won't change the opinion that they are useless against any other infantry late game. I'd like to see a weapon upgrade. I think the molly and nade will still need to be addressed. A weapon upgrade will add to the investment to a unit that will undoubtedly become "Ok" late game rather than useless.

I was wondering if anyone had advice to help counter OST & OKW in 4V4. I generally build Penals for the dps however I cant manage to build enough penals to counter the infantry spam (bleeding units STG-44 Volks , Sturm Rush, and MG42 / G43 Grens) nor do I have enough to deal with support weapons even with the clown car. Should I back tech to support for maximum / mortars to counter the blobs and risk being behind in tech? Currently I'm mainly playing urban defense for the forward HQ and Shocks. On occasion, I'll build the Light AT gun as a response to P2, 222, and Flamer Halftrack. I don't go T-34 for the most part because I feel that its a liability in the late game especially against axis late game armor thus i go SU-85. Tanks usually start appearing around the eight to fifteen-minute mark. I put alot of mines down as soviets. I even have the 6% price reduction to spam them on the feild however that dosent seem to deture the enemy. Thanks for your time / consideration.


General Build order

T0

1. Engineer (Flamer Upgrade) (starter)

2. Engineer (Flamer Upgrade)

T2

1. Penal (PTRS)

1.5 M3 Scout Car

2. Penal (PTRS)

3. Penal (PTRS)

4. Shocks (Callin)

5. Foward HQ (Ability)

T3

Side Note: Around this time im building munition caches for mines and penal satchels.

1. SU-76

2. SU-76 or M5 Halftrack to counter infantry / anti-air

T4

1. KV-2

2. SU-85

The first thing I would do is look at the base to see who your up against? OKW have black "splotches" where their base is that lets you know its them. That lets you know what kind of split your up against. Then make not of who your battle buddy is....He Russian? Ask him, "You make the maxims, I'll make the penals"....if its a USF, I usually say, "hey, you bring the infy, ill bring the mgs".... 4v4's take synergy for optimum results.....usually doing something like that lets ur teammate know that your serious and willing to work together, its amazing how that changes the game immediately, if they aren't super new.

I will typically make at least one conscript regardless of which batallion I go first to allow diversity....you can use it to oorah and flank/molotov mgs out of buildings while your penals do more of the heavy lifting....it also allows some earlier infy presence.....with two Wehr, not a bad idea to go sniper early for bleed if you can micro well......but it should be situational and hopefully complimentary to your battle buddy.