Profile of BeastHunter

C.Pz4 maybe not overate in 1v1 and 2v2 , but it's overate in 4v4 and 3v3. Because it could affect allies it would be overate as the number of units grows in the field.
To balance this, making command units works like brits do maybe better. Strong aura bouns for the player himself, so it would not go overate in team games and can be more valuable in 1v1 and 2v2.

edit: Maybe I failed to explain my idea at the beginning. I'm not asking for a nerf. I thought the aura effect for everyone is not a good design.

I do agree on the powercreep of th command panther which gets ridiculous buffs to vehicles that may get overlooked on low veterancy but get way stronger with vet and at vet5 even affect infantry (extra range, sight reload and accuracy for raketens, hmgs and other infantry), but i wouldn't say that the command p4 gets any stronger in 3v3/4v4 compared to 2v2 as the aura doesn't have a range to expand over half the map it is pretty easy to counter command tank auras with artillery.

I do not really like the ukf approach that lowers the command vehicles stats as a combat unit to improve other units as a balanced aproach as it usually renders the vehicle near useless in combat so only ever is efficient if you can either buff a lot of units or use a really cheap mobile vehicle so either aproach needs either a lot of ressources or quite some micro to pull off (although it usually gets rewarded if you can keep your command aec alive through the game)

I think the perfect kind of command vehicle would be a different unit type like the shortbarrel p4 that isn't amazing at fighting tanks but can still hold its own but i would prefer better buffs with vet like the command p5 although they should be fitting for infantry and tanks alike like the ukf aproach.

As a conclusion there are quite some differing aproaches in units that should do similar things but it is probably nothing we can change so it is probably the best to take it as it comes and to give useful insight if any of these things ever get patched or reworked.

Havent played around with axis admittedly!! so i wasnt sure about the prices but somehow I remember ostheer one being that?? but well 120 while t-34/85 is 130 just makes it worse with the veterancy to be honest...and all the other buffs. Im mainly wondering why they get all of these goodies while also not struggling early game? ??

Distro seems like a toxic poster but ill just say it is a BAD DESIGN!!. Blitzkrieg is blitzkrieg! what kind of blitzkrieg goes backwards?? And its a speed boost! it turns them to rally cars and let you get out of trouble super easily while as allied t-34 u would have to carefully think how to play that same scenarion because u cant just push the panic speed boost and revert back! and also SURELY U KNOW snares dont cause engine damage unless at certain HP %? AND UKF GETS NO SNARES except Tommie HEAT... soviet snares a sidetech. (engine damage ones, not button) unless u go penals but again SUPER LONG TIMER so u have time to just blitz out !!! U make no sense, do u even play as allied yourself? https://youtu.be/kYCNh3S251E?t=1398 Look at this video. High tier gamepaly and it highlights the issue SO WELL...0 micro for pz iv and then just blitz out while getting vet..and this is a good design x3 also vets vet 2 in the process

I do not understand your complains about the "bad" soviet tank veterancy beside vet1, which I personally use quite often probably about as often as blitzkrieg when I play axis. The Vet2 Rank gives higher reload compared to axis slight armor buffs (axis mediums get easier countered by atguns, snares or tankdestroyers or rare allied heavy tanks where the armor difference hardly makes a difference) vet 3 is about the same but the offensive veterancy usually works way better as it is a straight buff against all targets compared to a buff vs medium tanks and some handheld at weapons (which are rarely used)

The troubles about UKF will probably get changed in the next patch, and ukf has a even better (or atleast cheaper) blitzkriegesque ability, The probably strongest speed boost in the game is on USF m3 halftrack and the wc51 dodge truck has a low cooldown and costs nothing aswell.

I would strongly advise you to try to open your eyes and either complain in both ways or stop biased posting in the balance section and turn to the strategy desk or replay review for help.

I believe it's 380 for Riegel and 400 for Teller.

Should be 400 damage and engine damage for Teller and 320 damage + broken Treads

but its still a onehit kill against all light tanks but valentine and riegel kills everything up to halftracks with one hit.

Well yes, most units arnt as good when they face their counter, why is that a problem?




So heavy tanks cant be good vs tank destroyers, they can't be good against premium mediums, what exactly are they supposed to be good at? A heavy tank should be getting something for their high price and low mobility.

To your first point: Premium mediums would suffer under it would get countered by pretty much all units beside mediums and lone infantry squads without at capabilities, I personally only ever use premium mediums to survive one extra shot or have a overall slightly bette survivability which i only need if i face many tankdestroyers and some indirect options which would counter undefended at-based infantry or atguns.

Heavy Tanks work quite well for me if i use them as a spearhead unit supported by units that wouldn't stand a chance on their own like pgrens with schrecks that usually get focused and destroyed easily. I do think that in general heavy tanks could use a buff but i do not think that a straight damage buff would work without buffing premium medium tanks somehow: maybe some better pen for t34/85, slightly better mobility for sherman 75mm dozer, maybe revert the moving accuracy for the m4a3e8, Comet could either use a bit more hp or pen at vet0 to compare to the current panther and its veterancy needs a slight rework as it unlocks nice passive features like phosphor unlock and passive grenades but lacks combat buffs, I am unsure if Panther might need some changes to keep their role useful compared to the tiger that gets the same range at vet2 has similiar pen and armor and gets great mobility at vet3 while having way better health and antiinfantry performance.

To conclude i won't say that Heavy Tanks do not underperform but i think they could overperform compared to another class of lategame units.

Current M36 Jackson does 160 damage unless its using hvap rounds. If that buff did take place then Panther and Comet would need to be looked at as they would get completely overshadowed and hardcountered by heavy tanks.