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Thread: Increase light jaegars price26 Dec 2018, 14:54 PM Jump back to quoted post26 Dec 2018, 14:34 PMVipper You seem determined to continue spamming your opinion about how broken JLI and repeating the same suggestions without actually reading and understanding what other say, I actually have better thing to do, so you can continue on your own if you want. Merry Christmas and happy new year. BB because you keep on replying with that assertion that 340mp JLI would be unusable... this is bullshit judging by the way they wipe penals off the map... my entire point is to prove this statement as complete bullshit Jump back to quoted post26 Dec 2018, 14:34 PMVipper At CP 2 and 340 manpower an AI unit with no AT will still be obsolete. all the evidence i have said all the statements i have made concentrate on trying to prove the bullshit behind saying 340MP 2CP jagers would be obsolete... they most certainly will not because they objectively wipe penals off the map... that is not an opinion rather that is a FACT... they wipe penals off the map period... if it WIPES penals regardless of range... then it should cost MORE than penals... however you seem to lack the comprehension to understand that and maintain a holier than though ignorant position... maybe you should "read and understand" my statements before claiming bullshit like this... In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Increase light jaegars price26 Dec 2018, 13:06 PM Jump back to quoted post26 Dec 2018, 12:58 PMLoren I do not think that comparing JLI to ober is a false comparison. Both are Anti-Infantry Specialists, elite infantry of 4 men squad size, and utility skills like booby trap. Both have no snare skills, and are long-range combat specialists. Strictly speaking, both are not base-line infantry and are specialized in fire support. The problem is that these fire support units must also be expected to be cost effective. Let's take an extreme example. If the USF's Pathfinders are capable of producing only 50 manpower, Would not this unit cause problems? Pathfinders are very easy to handle with light tanks, with very few utility skills (usually only beacon installations if they are not IR pathfinders). Obviously, however, the price of Pathfinders will also cause another problem if cost effective is ridiculous. And these conditions are the same for JLI. JLI is not a consuming unit and is not a base-line infantry, but these units must also be cost effective to balance well. And now the situation is too restrictive for the allied strategy, and it can be won easily through JLI. This is obviously causing problems. I would rather suggest a way to convince some axis fanboy of this issue. Temporarily, for a period of about a month, change the USF's Pathfinder ability, demand cp, and price exactly the same as JLI. Maybe the axis fanboys will try to riot on this board in less than a week. that gives me an idea... buff the soviet sniper to JLI standards and see how axis riots >.> wehraboo logic = its totally fine when a (postnerf) 280mp squad destroys a 300mp squad... 340 or 280 + 60% crit... those are the only logical conclusions that i have garnered from the testing... In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Increase light jaegars price26 Dec 2018, 13:02 PM Jump back to quoted post26 Dec 2018, 12:42 PMVipper At this point you simple make no sense. No one said that JLI should be buffed and I clearly said that they should be nerfed and their spam ability fixed. because you have this ridiculous assertion that JLI should cost 280mp when they EXTERMINATE 300 MP squads outright... if JLI should be 280 then penals should be 250... Jump back to quoted post26 Dec 2018, 12:42 PMVipper What I have said is that your analysis and suggestions are wrong. JLI should not replace mainline infantry or Obers. youre right they shouldnt... a 340mp jager squad can still do things obers cant do and obers can do things a 340 jager squad cant do... they arent the same and they dont replace each other... one is a firesupport unit the other is line infantry Jump back to quoted post26 Dec 2018, 12:42 PMVipper What one actually can do is lower their DPS at close range giving them a distinctive disadvantage at certain range. Combined with counter spam changes (CP, cool-down) the units will be in much better place. im not even sure if this can be done given the current engine... regardless retaining their high damage past 30m might be a good idea... but its price still needs nerfs to higher prices... 300mp is still a minimum In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Increase light jaegars price26 Dec 2018, 11:33 AM ok another round of testing 10 range engagement penals vs jagers battle 1 penals lost all models jagers lost 1 battle 2 penals lost all models jagers lost 1 battle 3 penals lost all models jagers lost 1 engagement at 5 range battle 1 penals lost 2 models jagers lost all... battle 2 penals lost 3 jagers lost all... battle 3 penals lost all jagers lost 3... definitely not broken amirite? In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Increase light jaegars price26 Dec 2018, 11:21 AM Jump back to quoted post26 Dec 2018, 11:16 AMVipper Actually you refuse to listen and you keep repeating the mantra. ok lets just make jagers cost 100mp and give them HK416 + panzerfaust 3s... while were at it we should add Leopard 2A7+ and space lasers to germany... also give them the gotterdammerung spacecraft from iron sky then nerf all allied infantry to cost 500mp >.> the whole point of the argument was that jagers are better than penal battalions and obers despite being cheaper... but since axis can get better stuff for free... when is the leopard 2A7+ coming? In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Increase light jaegars price26 Dec 2018, 11:12 AM Jump back to quoted post26 Dec 2018, 11:04 AMVipper Once more repeating the same mantra again and again is not helpful. This is not yoga. only because you refuse to listen Jump back to quoted post26 Dec 2018, 11:04 AMVipper At CP 2 and 340 manpower an AI unit with no AT will still be obsolete. obers come later than 2cp and cost 340 and have no AT... they dont get stealth dont infiltrate and have less utility than JLI do... still not useless penals come earlier cost 300 but get shot in the foot to get AT... they are clobbered by jagers at almost all combat ranges aswell... have little utility beyond satcheling objects and did i mention losing to jagers at almost all combat ranges? Jump back to quoted post26 Dec 2018, 11:04 AMVipper And once more the unit needs to bring something to the table while not being spam-able. It should not replace VG or obers but it should work with them. You comparison/analysis are flawed and so are you suggestions. long range vision... long range sniper support... infiltration boobytrapping sniper killing stealth and force recon... no other OKW unit can do all of that look the best no brainer way to fix this is to reduce that 70% crit to 40% and keep the pricing... but since people want to retain 70% crit then nerf the price to 340 to keep it balanced also making them cost 280 while retaining that ridiculous 70% crit means that they will replace obersoldaten regardless... making them 340 means that they truly become support weapons while not being spammable In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Increase light jaegars price26 Dec 2018, 10:55 AM Jump back to quoted post26 Dec 2018, 10:41 AMSander93 Why on earth are you comparing them to stock Obers lol Other than it's the only way to save your silly argument of course Compare fully upgraded JLI to fully upgraded Obers, or compare stock Obers to stock JLI (god knows why you would do that) but don't cherry pick the test parameters to favour your argument. Upgraded Obers are 340MP with 70MU, and upgraded JLI raw combat power is at about 80% of upgraded Obers performance. 340x0,8=272MP 70x0,8=56MU Is what JLI are worth according to your comparison. 1. 80% is an arbitrary number you made up... meanwhile my tests concluded that they clobber both obers and penals at all ranges beyond range 10... and since JLI outperform penals which are a 300 mp squad ergo 340 becomes a decent estimate to their performance... do empirical tests before posting your feelings dammit... 2. remove the 45 muni cost on the G-43... jagers without them arent too good anyways... make them storm like in that they cannot spawn from behind with a G-43 but can transition to line infantry after their infiltration course... 3. i find it odd that a recon squad is DEFEATING 300MP AND 340MP LINE INFANTRY AT SHORT RANGES In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Increase light jaegars price26 Dec 2018, 10:47 AM Jump back to quoted post26 Dec 2018, 10:46 AMVipper again your comparisons and suggestion are simply wrong. Even at at CP 2 as 340 MP /45 munition unit JLI would become obsolete. The unit should be useful but not spam-able. ive already stated make the G-43 a free upgradable like storms ergo JLI become a 340mp 2cp sniper squad... no muni required... also they beat penals which have semi auto rifles at range 10 (which is short range) soo your argument is moot they are almost able to beat assault engineers aswell downing them to 1 man before finally dying... In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Increase light jaegars price26 Dec 2018, 10:44 AM because jagers outperform both penals and stock obers at all ranges except cqc... did i say that they outperform penals? or should i say it again that they outperform penals at all ranges except below range 10? In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Increase light jaegars price26 Dec 2018, 10:26 AM Jump back to quoted post26 Dec 2018, 09:54 AMVipper A CP 6 costing 340 and having no AT at all is useless. ive already downed that to 2cp to bring them inline with shocks and guards... sure no AT at all just like shocks snipers and Jump back to quoted post26 Dec 2018, 09:54 AMVipper Can you pls stop repeatedly comparing Ober and JLI, they are not meant to replace Obers and the units serve different roles. Your argument hold little water, if assault engineer can beat them at point blank would that mean they should cost less then assault engineers? The JLI spam needs to fixed but your suggestion are simply wrong. unupgraded obers are long range infantry just like jagers are... obers get a similar number of abilities and utility but dont get stealth needs tech and cannot spawn from buildings raping your sniper etc... mind you jagers beat obers at range 20 and beyond... meaning jagers beat obers at SHORT MEDIUM AND LONG ranges alike and obers only gain the advantage at cqc ranges below range 10... did a few range 10 engagements battle 1 jagers lost 2 men obers lost all battle 2 jagers lost 3 men obers lost all battle 3 jagers lost 2 men obers lost all also did a few single tests shocks vs obers shocks lost 1 man shocks vs jagers shocks lost 2 men penals vs obers penals lost all models... obers lost 3... penals vs jagers penals lost all models... jagers lost 3(!!!!!!!!!!!) thats range 10 mind you thats short range... AND JAGERS BEAT PENALS AND OBERS EVEN AT RANGE 10 jagers +G43 are more akin to 340mp squads than 300mp... if you want the jager to be 300mp or less the penal should be 250mp or less tldr jagers beat obers at all ranges except close quarters ergo 340mp is viable another test... just 1 sample size like before.. obers vs assault engies obers lose all models... assault engies lost 3 jagers vs assault engies obers lose all models... assault engies lost 4 they only barely lose to assault engies at range 10... In: COH2 Balance