I'm a mainly axis player and I'm having a very hard time winning any 4v4's since the patch. Maybe bad luck? GCS stats don't look good for axis either.
Well about an hour ago, a mate and I played a 4v4 but two of our teammates dropped, and we absolutely roflstomped the 4 enemy players. They were pretty bad, but after about 3 minutes, I was just blobbing up all my infantry and sending them on their merry way and still had a shit ton of resources and kept beating the enemy with said "strategy". I'm gonna post a replay probably, if I get around to it.
Edit: *4v4 as axis, me okw and him ostheer. |
See, on one hand I feel that there are way too many StGs in this game and that panzergrens with rifles and a choice between schrecks or stgs would be better for the game...
On the other hand, this thread.
Lol. The main offender of stgs is okw though. |
No very early on we whooped the Brit at top and the USF with him was slow to respond. He set up his Vikers, got flanked lost it and lost some of his other units then his USF buddy came in and got out numbered.
Mid to late game you were swarmed by Volks that is true, but that is because we took top with out much loss, I did see bottom seemed to be going either way; so we came down and flanked. It seemed to be all down hill from there.
Heh. Down hill (bu dum chhhhhh). Still, you saw mid towards the end. That just shouldn't happen. There were literally like 50 volks just running around with stgs chucking flame nades everywhere and not even all my BAR rifles and a squad of rangers could hold them back. I couldn't even use cover because there were so many nades lol. I lost my Stuart because in attempting to back up from one blob and some grens on a flank, it ran smack into another three volks and a Sturm who fausted and shrecked it to death. I probably should've gone lt and built an hmg, but like I said, in the other game I got punished hard for doing that too. |
I agree, I am just making sure people understand the issue at hand. Lots of people seem to want it late or behind a paywall, by which time clown cars can be everywhere. Or even that crazy doctrinal USF jeep I forgot the name of.
People need to understand that since Volks cant get Shrek any more the Faust has taken a centre stage to stop clown cars.
True true. |
I'm holding out for when snares dont give xp left and right though. |
I tend to agree with Volks over shadowing them. Taking Shrek away from Volks for StG was not well thought out, it was clear this would happen. Since there would be no reason to not buy the StG.
Obers shouldn't be weakened to come out earlier since they are supposed to be good.
Probably the only answer to the Volks problem is to give them options on upgrades and make them universal base infintry that can diversify, like Shrek or StG or G43 or w/e; Allow choices.
Then there will be a need as the game progresses for units who can fight BARs or Brens effectively (like Obers) because there wont be a massive group of crazy AI infin running around, some will have AT, some will have ranged weapons etc etc.
Yes. I like this idea. They should get some upgrade, but not one that makes them outfight rifles (with the help of lavanades, also a little too powerful IMO) and it should have some drawback, like expense, range weakness, or something. |
I just played a 4v4 against you on hill 400 with 3xOKW.
On a map that small with so many OKW of course you are going to see crap tons of them. Your top side was just outplayed and we didn't lose many squads allowing us to go down and flank you and your buddy. The other hald of your team was just out played.
Don't know about the rest of your games though. Maybe give it more time.
Sure, our side got outplayed, and they were bad, awful even. But it got outplayed mostly by a bunch of blobbed up volks. Every game I played has been like that. Even when I invest in a .50 AND an m15 the blobs just run it over. |
Might just be today, but it seems like volks blobs are a lot more potent now. I've played several teamgames today and everyone has just been wiping the floor with volks blobs. I've tried mgs, I've tried indirect, I've even made a fucking m15. Needless to say, all were ineffectual. Did they nijabuff axis last patch or something? Or is it just me? |
Every faction needs a snare.
You can't make Volks snare too late or clown car spam = gg OKW.
Well okw does have the rak. It's sure not ideal, but neither is snares on tough mainline inf like volks at like 2min. |
What are people's thoughts on this? Is it worth building now that it doesn't try to turn around to its blind spots every time you tell it to attack something? Or what? |