USF flaktrack

Jump back to quoted post27 Apr 2017, 00:47 AMLoopDloop

What are people's thoughts on this? Is it worth building now that it doesn't try to turn around to its blind spots every time you tell it to attack something? Or what?

Jump back to quoted post27 Apr 2017, 03:35 AMGrumpy

I've tried it a couple times since the new patch came out and ended up wishing I'd just saved the fuel to get a Sherman out quicker.

Jump back to quoted post27 Apr 2017, 03:53 AMLoopDloop

Me too. It takes way too long to suppress vetted volks and literally gets fausted to death in my experience lol.

Jump back to quoted post27 Apr 2017, 04:15 AMGrumpy

I'm not sure why this was needed:

Main gun damage vs infantry set to -50%

The reason given was this:
"Due to the changes in the opposing factions (most notably 222 changes and Luchs), we are adjusting the performance of M15 to bring it in line with the other light vehicles. This will also help prevent the Lieutenant tier from dominating over the Captain tier."

I haven't tested it recently, but am pretty sure that the Luchs and 222 have no problem with a M15, even though they are cheaper (asymmetric balancing at its best). The reasoning then boils down to them deciding they had to nerf the M15 because they nerfed the Stuart.

Jump back to quoted post27 Apr 2017, 03:53 AMLoopDloop

Me too. It takes way too long to suppress vetted volks and literally gets fausted to death in my experience lol.

Jump back to quoted post28 Apr 2017, 00:24 AMClerv

Would be nice to think that getting hit by a M1 automatic 37 millimeter auto cannon and two 12.7 mm M2 Browning heavy machine guns would be enough to suppress a squad. Personally i'd take cover hey what would I know!

Jump back to quoted post27 Apr 2017, 09:04 AMFinndeed

I have been using it to great effect as part of a build which i have used to beat Talisman, Barton and a number of other good players. Its very good partly because it suppresses infantry on the move and can counter 222's. I have also used it to finished off a couple Luchs' with it.

Back it up with a zook or 2 so it cant get circled by a 222/luchs. Then use it like the best mg in the game.

Jump back to quoted post27 Apr 2017, 09:04 AMFinndeed

I have been using it to great effect as part of a build which i have used to beat Talisman, Barton and a number of other good players. Its very good partly because it suppresses infantry on the move and can counter 222's. I have also used it to finished off a couple Luchs' with it.

Back it up with a zook or 2 so it cant get circled by a 222/luchs. Then use it like the best mg in the game.

Jump back to quoted post28 Apr 2017, 02:54 AMGrumpy

Are any of those replays posted?

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Jump back to quoted post28 Apr 2017, 08:35 AMFinndeed

Unfortunately not, though i think i have one vs SturmPanther for the Tournament placement games...

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This is not a GREAT example because SturmPanther had lag However its an example. If i get some more good games with it I can post them for you

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The thing takes a lot of micro but you can manage how you use it to limit how much micro you have to put into it. Use it defensively to blunt an enemy attack. You can suppress infantry squads really quickly with it (giving your rifles an even better chance). It also rotates which squad it is firing against much faster too... Maybe the unit isnt for you but it is a good unit.

Jump back to quoted post28 Apr 2017, 09:42 AMEsxile

Of course but it is easier to say than do. As I say, it dies in two shots making it too squishy for its fuel cost. And for what, a suppressive platform that doesn't have burst impact.
I repeat myself but the M20 is much more balanced. It dies in two shots as well but has a defensive smoke. It is better, in average hands, to build a M20 + a HMG.50

If you compare it to other half-track they are much more easier to use.
Soviet's one doesn't suppress on the move but actually doesn't require to be babysitted as the USF one and it kills reliably any infantry around.
Ostheer's one is super squishy but super effective vs infantry, in term of dps burst here your micro is highly rewarded.
OKW's one has a deployment animation making it requiring as much micro as the USF one, also dies in two shots but has a defensive smoke. Plus, it does have a real burst. It only target one squad but the squad is most likely going to be wiped in two bursts if out of cover.