Profile of Tric

I feel this map feels a bit tight not because there arent open spaces but because the Building Sectors are way too long and divides the map too much. Since the map is not steppes-open, players are going to be presumably positioned like indicated and their path to each other will be blocked by the two long building blocks. So they either have to go around all the way back or through the very centre ground getting spotted, etc etc.

The other building blocks away from the centre are also too long, making those beige colour area unsuited for use - sure, they can be used to flank but they are just cornered into the tightest space. So nobody would go there except to cap the resource points.

The same is not the case in NorthWest Sector(Northwest Sector indicated in yellow) where the area is not too 'tight' because there is an opening indicated by the circle. So that area do serve a purpose either than to just have a cap point there.

I think that would be the gist of my suggestion for all the indicated building blocks. I know most of them have a building so that normal infantry can pass through but in the late game, i feel the map should open up a bit more for bigger armies with vehicles: My suggestion is reassemble a respectably wide part of those building blocks with rubbles and shot blockers that can be crushed by medium vehicles+.


p.s. I want to hear people's opinion about the capping circles. Not about coh1 system v. coh2 system but about the size of them. I feel their size are just too big. It is so hard to get around undetected because the capping circles give you away and they are just darn too big. I think they can at least half smaller.

All though everything you put down is valid in one way or another, the distance traveled from each point to the next is exactly the same (or at worst within 5m of each other), this is why there is no division in the middle of the long building rows (as I spent about 2 months testing it after tightropes cast, and there was no way it was going to realistically work), as it would entirely redo pathing and the complete dynamic of the map would change, which would lead even further to the "tightness" you describe as the building rows serve to hinder movement in a lot of ways.

Those flanks are used quite often, btw, from players used to the map. You get large scale vehicle flanks due to the way the mid plays. Unless you enjoy beating your head off the enemies defenses and letting them get arty.

Making medium crush rubble would require the entire map being redone as it would be all or nothing, if it isn't consistent throughout the map people complain like no tomorrow, although it was something I thought about originally, it won't make sense to the average player that casually plays and will be even more frustrating. I thought of putting the crosses across the long building rows in the mid with medium crush, but it is not consistent. (players just think that all rubble is crushable), so I didn't implement it as that was the feedback I received during the last few months of testing.

Also the capture points should be able to be smaller, but right now the standard is a radius of 18-20, very few points can be pulled down smaller, unless you put it directly next to indestructible objects (building rows, groves) and half it from there.

Not quite both of you.

A team from Relic gets together every now and again to implement big patch stuff. Kyle fills in gaps inbetween but he wouldn't be able to install a patch.

Why is this even out? This has been scheduled for March since forever

This isnt the balance patch.

And it really isn't wrong. There are a few (and even that may be too high) other people occasionally come over from DoW team to assist, but it is largely inpart just Kyle working on everything himself. As they don't have the resources, or the care to actually support their product correctly any longer.

Choose which ever you like, but this is the truth.

That's unfortunate. Well, thanks for the update. It's interesting to get a scoop from the inside.

Yes its just very tough ATM, not saying there aren't plans, but its just very tough.

Unless I'm just completely ignorant of how this process works (which is possible), none or at least very little of that time is Relic's. There are already hundreds of possible maps you could use on the workshop with a little quality checking. Besides, every map is going to take someone's time, yet we got four 2v2 maps, plus several more 1v1 and 2v2s the last time they added maps. We can't even get one 4v4? Come on.

You do understand that 99% of the maps on the workshop are very very low quality or stolen right? And that all of these maps outside mine was made years ago and abandoned? We had to upgrade and change them ourselves, it takes a ton of our hours just do get 4 2v2 maps. S

2 VP map? I always wondered and wanted to experiment with that layout.

With proper layout, it'd be a happy medium between traditional VP and annihilation mode.

Yes, that is why its longer actually. To stop the base rape or mitigate it in such a way that if you don't actually succeed you threw pretty hard due to the long retreat paths and the way for people to get back in the game. We've had fun with it on the stream now for a long while, and it seems to play fine, the only time it is tough is the first couple of plays (like any map) and if you don't coordinate properly.

I'm sure there are some issues and things that need worked around or dealt with, as we can't catch em all, but yah. It seemed good for the long while we tested it.