Isn't the cost of con ppsh usinh cons before you get the ppsh? That's gotta count for something... |
I fail to see at all how coming later makes it more of a reactionary unit....
You have it availible when (if) you need it... That's the bloody point. If you have ALREADY teched to t4 you might as well stall for a t34 or an su85. The point of the su76 is if you CAN'T get t4 you can still have a mobile AT unit.
All putting it in t4 does is add 85 fu and 240mp to the cost of your emergency AT. I can't for the life of me see how that makes it more accessible... |
I'm actually fine with the higher than average target size at vet 0 as it makes merge a bit less easy of an action. Your con models will always be a bit easier to hit than your regular models so you are trading immediate reinforcement and lower reinforcement costs for slightly higher bleed. I think their durability improvements could be more linear though (a bit with each and every level) |
*codguy and devm
To be fair though if each officer came with a 1 use ability that let them call in a nuke that destroyed the enemy base codguy would complain that it came so late and was only a 1 use ability.... |
I've already said it, but to repeat myself, nobody (except CoDguy) asked for rifle buff. Everybody asked for a volk nerf. SMH balance team. Now rifles are a nightmare for grens while volks barely got the nerf they deserved. What the hell is a 10mp really gonna do to volks? . In a standard 4 volk build its going to allow a Soviet player to lose 2 conscript models for free which is pretty awesome until you think of all the cons volks are going to burn from cover while remaining in cover or mulch with their STGs over the course of a match... |
Pgrens came too late to be useful and had a trashy vet 1 ability for their role but even then they did well eniugh against the Soviet. It was the introduction of durable and hard hitting WFA infantry that made pgrens undesirable more than anything.
Old Ostwind was unreliable and was in need of a buff imo, but the su76 isn't unreliable.
The reason you don't see it in high play is because they games aren't super one sided to the point that the best of us need something to bridge the gap to getting t4. At any rate a fail to see how "pay munitions and now the enemy is highlighted into the FOW" will suddenly turn the su76 from back up AT to the next hot thihg that people are going to delay they tech for if they don't have to (exactly like now) especially with the current saturation of man AT.
As I said way back, I could see an increase to damage but a full on (or half assed) redisgn isn't needed. |
The su76 isn't a staple unit. That's why you don't see it every game. It's role is reactionary not meta leading. You hukd it if you need it, you don't build a BO around it any more. Just because you don't see it frequently doesn't mean it's failing or needs work. The fact you are even saying (uuuh he builds a shock light tank instead of a tank destroyer to fight enemy infantry before they get a tank out "is hilarious.
IT'S THERE IF YOU NEED IT NOT AS AN ALWAYS BUILD.
to rephrase
IF YOU NEED IT IT IS THERE BUT BECAUSE YOU DON'T ALWAYS NEED IT DOESN'T MEAN IT'S POORLY DESIGNED
In linear tech there are often redundancy, there is no denying that the su85 is better, but if you can't afford to tech up and need some hard (as in not countered by small arms) AT you can have 3 for the cost it would take getting to the su85.
It's there to give you a chance to come back if you need it.
Fuck.
Why is this so difficult to understand?
And just because YOU don't build an su76 and prefer to back tech doesn't mean all of us do. When you are up to your taint in ass grens I'd like to see you getting by with just a zis. Sometimes you need something the enemy infantry can't sprint at. I'd sooner have the option to do as I please than be forced to shell out all the manpower in back teching (taking a unit of the front, taking the time to build the building, taking the time to buold the zis, taking the time to walk the zis to where I need it) when I CAN get a mobile unit immune to small arms. It's niche. Yes. But that doesn't mean it doesn't have merit. |
Aful idea to allow stacking the upgrades. The durability buff alone would make the upgrades much more effective let alone the other bonuses mo-res gives. |
it's not just the buff to rifle and RE, nerf to volks and m20 rush still being very good and not easy to counter (especially now that puppchen lost stealth at vet 0)
10mp was hardly a nerf. It takes what, 1 second to generate enough MP to cover that at the start of a match? Oooooooo big nerf! Volks performance took a huge hit.... |
I disagree that the KT shouldn't be better than a p4. Durability alone isn't worth the price look at the old kv-1for a lesser example. I like the new spearhead change, but not sure it's enough. As always I'll say that more of the issue lies in allied TDs than the KT itself though. |