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Thread: USF major4 Apr 2022, 16:17 PM Jump back to quoted post4 Apr 2022, 16:06 PMleithianz I'm already satisfied with vision buff TBH... If anything, maybe decrease mp cost for reproduce. 200 MP for non-combat(maybe except for bazooka) unit is too much in late game Major is a combat units even without any significant DPS since he can provide barrage, fake barrage and smoke. In addition the cost is 150 not 200 MP which is actually dirty cheap. One can use major even as a kamikaze unit and cause more manpower power bleed to enemy with barrage even if one loses the major in the process. The unit should have its MP cost increased not decreased. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: 76mm Sherman and M4C's AP shell needs a small buff I think4 Apr 2022, 13:57 PM Jump back to quoted post4 Apr 2022, 10:21 AMSupport Sapper Pay a commander slot to have a fair chance vs enemy stock medium tank, fair enough, tho. Lets look at that stats: PzIV vs T-34/76 at range 35, PzIV 86% chance to win PzIV vs Sherman at range 35, PzIV 62% chance to win PzIV vs Sherman 76mm at range 35, 76mm 78% chance to win So yes it is fair and 76mm is simply not trash/useless as people claim. As for the commander being "fair" or not I would say that is as "fair" as Panzer J for Ostheer. Does that make commander good? no it does not. On the other hand USF have several issues like: 1) USF have access to 5 different version of Sherman and their stock Sherman is a very quite efficient tank. As I have already pointed out making all 5 version worth building and balanced is a nightmare. 2) Access to one of the best TDs in game that work equally good vs light/medium/heavy and super heavies tank leaving little room for other AT vehicles. 3) In the current implementation overlap between commanders like mechanized/rifle/(and urban assault) all providing a superior medium tank. If there is a need to make mechanized company more attractive (and the commander does seem to unpopular) that is not buffing the 76mm which is a cost efficient unit. Now keep in mind that I am responding to claims that "the 76mm does not have role/it is trash". If you agree with these claim feel free to explain why but if you disagree, I suggest you argue with the people who made this claims and not me. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: 76mm Sherman and M4C's AP shell needs a small buff I think4 Apr 2022, 08:13 AM Jump back to quoted post3 Apr 2022, 15:12 PMKurobane Well I mean Vipper is the biggest troll on these forums which is why he has gotten banned a few times. He is basically the Balance Team mascot defending every bad decision they make and loves to derail threads. That is rather funny coming from person who's latest posts are about how the balance team overbuffs axis units and about how crap raid section are and all that in a thread about the 76mm Sherman. Jump back to quoted post3 Apr 2022, 15:12 PMKurobane Anyway the 76mm Sherman lacks a clear definitive role. This is one aspect of the game that could use some work. For example you have sort of a rock, paper, scissors approach with Infantry, HMGs, and Mortars which works well but then with tanks the only roles are Generalist (T-34/Panzer IV/Crommwell), Tank Destroyer, and Heavy tank with no real roles assigned to these tanks other than whoever is the best or does most damage wins. Take shock troops for example, everyone knows that Shock Troops murder things at close range, While Infantry Sections are Max Range, while Rifleman are great at Medium Range. These types of Weapon Profiles should exist for tanks as well. ... There have been numerous documented cases of smaller tanks/vehicles defeating big tanks at close range yet this isn't translated into COH 2 at all when the technology for different profiles exists within the game. Take an Elephant Tank for example. A T-34 could get close to an Elephant even firing from the rear and the shots/do no damage. If tanks had weapon profiles like infantry they could assign roles to different tanks. Maybe T-34 sucks balls long range but will shock troop vehicles close range. So back to the 76mm Sherman it does the same role as the regular sherman which makes it pointless to make. Now if a normal Sherman had a profile where it needed close range to be effective, 76mm sherman could be the medium range tank leaving Jackson with a long range weapon profile and the unit would at least have some form of role in mind with its design. Lack of Role and Design make the tank in its current state extreme garbage. The 76mm Sherman has a very clear role and design. Its role is to go toe toe with PzIVs and it does fulfill its role cost effectively. The vanilla Sherman will probably lose to PzIV while the 76mm will probably win. If one is facing PzIV it not pointless to make 76mm Shermans actually is a good choice. Now if that role is enough to make the commander attractive or if the role is also covered by other units it is a different story but the 76mm does have a role. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Conscript PTRS AT-grenade ability3 Apr 2022, 20:19 PM Jump back to quoted post3 Apr 2022, 20:10 PMSkysTheLimit I was referencing this part: I think "FMA of counterattack" is referring to for mother Russia. Which is a solid ability but using mortar smoke + fmr to get AT penals close seems like just as much work as ambushing with ptrs cons Yea it probably meant FMR, the combination of smoke can allow Penals not to get fire upon until they can close in on their target. Imo ambush camo works better in CQC maps, in many cases it seemed to me that ourah and AT assault do not work very well together. There is an overlap between PTRS Penals and PTRS conscripts, but the commander is good at destroying OKW trucks. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Conscript PTRS AT-grenade ability3 Apr 2022, 15:36 PM Jump back to quoted post3 Apr 2022, 15:32 PMSkysTheLimit If you're talking about for mother Russia, that only gives them sprint out of combat Like I said ptrs cons have vehicle detection, so you don't even have to just wait forever. You can move them to cover and camo when you see the tank coming on the map Ptrs cons are a stronger AT squad than ptrs penals. That's not debatable. Its whether or not it's worth going the commander in the first place. I would never use him in 1v1 And heavy TDs/the KT. Very very good against those He is talking about : Name: "Inspire Infantry" Duration: 15 Seconds Cost: 25 Munitions -20% weapon cooldown Affected squads will move faster. Range of aura - 30. available to KV-2/KV-8, an ability which is a great buff to PTRS. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: 76mm Sherman and M4C's AP shell needs a small buff I think3 Apr 2022, 12:47 PM Jump back to quoted post3 Apr 2022, 10:53 AMEsxile Their objectives was to make sure bad players like you have a chance vs USF. Nothing related to balance, thus the "You need to play USF perfectly to win" while Ostheer can be played with 1 hand we get now as balance standard. Mechanized dominance on 1vs1 was solely related to the WC51 which as been hard nerfed purposely and if the modding team had ever bother to think about USF and its doctrines implication they would have tune combined arms and not simply nerfed every single aspect of the doctrine. And here are the actual stat that tell a different story: USF 53% winrate in 1vs1 for the last patch and 51.9% for top 200. https://coh2stats.com/stats?range=range&statsSource=all&type=1v1&race=usf&fromTimeStamp=1631145600&toTimeStamp=1648944000 Think it is safe to say that mod team does not hate the USF faction... In: COH2 Balance
Thread: 76mm Sherman and M4C's AP shell needs a small buff I think3 Apr 2022, 10:33 AM Jump back to quoted post3 Apr 2022, 08:51 AMEsxile I was sarcastic, the modding team simply wanted to make the doctrine disappear so don't bother with better solutions because they don't care, they achieved their objective. A here is the conspiracy theory again. Now lets try get back to reality. Mechanized and Ostuppen commander where completely dominating the meta and that was bad for the game. So both of them got nerfed. The idea that "modding team" does not care is rather ridiculous because if they did not care they would simply not make patches. And objective of the mod team is not no nerf USF to the ground either... In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Conscript PTRS AT-grenade ability2 Apr 2022, 22:16 PM "Camouflage Detectable at 10 range Requires the squad to be stationary. First Strike bonus: + 25% penetration Conscripts gain access to the Hold Fire ability RPG-40 Anti-Tank Grenade Assault Replaces RPG-43 Anti-Tank Grenade when Conscript PTRS package is upgraded - Aim-time from 2 to 1.375 - Wind-up from 0.25 to 0.125 - Range from 15 to 18 - Damage from 80 to 50 - Penetration from 100 to 150 - Causes engine damage at 75% health - Can be avoided if out of range before the grenades are thrown; grenades will home onto targets when tossed" The ability is better used from ambush position and it can have devastating effects. In lenie forest I destroyed a PzIV in the forest before it had any time to react. 6 grenades will do 240 guaranteed damage up to 300 and one can finish with PTRS from single squad. When PTRS Penal where introduced the unit has lost its role though since the overlap it simply too much. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: 76mm Sherman and M4C's AP shell needs a small buff I think1 Apr 2022, 23:59 PM Jump back to quoted post1 Apr 2022, 18:14 PMEtherealDragon I think these are fair enough points but I still think OP's original point stands. (At this point it's pretty pie in the sky to think a unit rework will happen). "Medium Tank that's slightly better than stock M4A3 at beating P4s" just isn't a strong selling point. It is not a strong selling point for the USF but I was responding to claims that the unit is trash and as I pointed the issue is the role of the unit and not with its performance/cost efficiency. Jump back to quoted post1 Apr 2022, 18:14 PMEtherealDragon Pre-nerf Mechanized was mostly used for Dodge Truck pressure and Dozer Shermans as far as I can remember. Meanwhile the ROF was the only real thing that made the 76MM somewhat attractive since it made up for the lack of HE shells when you weren't using HVAP (do people even use the HVAP on 76MM?). 76MM needs some semblance of AI perks otherwise you might as well get a Jackson if you want to tame P4s. This is even more true now that Mechanized's power level was nerfed pretty hard is other areas. According to MMX tool in a static slug fest 76mm has 60.5% chance to beat a PzIV at rage 40 and 78.6% chance to beat with using HVAP and 76mm has 33.6% chance to beat a PzIV J at rage 40 and 50.9% chance to beat with using HVAP (the 76mm has even better chance if both units are moving) (so 76mm is not "slightly better than stock M4A3 at beating P4s" but much better) so according to the tool one should be using HVAP... Jump back to quoted post1 Apr 2022, 18:14 PMEtherealDragon TL/DR I don't think a slight buff to 76MM's standard shell will put it over the top given how the rest of Mechanized was nerfed if it's going to be one of the main reasons you pick the doctrine. If there is buff that should simply not be in ROF since the unit fire faster than other medium tanks. On the other hand USF have access to one of the best TDs in game and 4 different versions of Sherman and making all them useful and balanced is a nightmare. Currently it seem that Rifle company is a more attractive Commander and unless one buffs 76mm to be more cost efficient than Easy8 that will probably not change. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: 76mm Sherman and M4C's AP shell needs a small buff I think1 Apr 2022, 16:06 PM Jump back to quoted post1 Apr 2022, 15:43 PMMMX Well, obviously, but I guess we both know that ROF is only one out of many parameters defining a unit's performance. And I assume you'd also agree that reducing ROF just because a unit supposedly fires too fast would be pretty pointless, unless you'd want to A) nerf the unit alltogether or B) give it something in return to keep its performance the same. Now the latter obviously didn't happen, which is quite disappointing. It's still a good tank nonetheless, especially in Lendlease, but there are better options to pick in the USF roster. A) The unit was OP B) The unit had abnormally base high ROF C) The unit had abnormally high veterancy bonuses 76mm Sherman started as Soviet unit that had T-34 vet bonuses that where higher than USF Sherman's bonus. In addition it had no access to radio network or combined arms at the time. Then it become available to both factions whiled buffed and enjoyed the best of both world. That was a mistake since the unit should be separately balance for Soviets and USF. As a result it become OP and had to be nerfed (and it can still beat PzIVs cost efficiently.) The ROF was an obvious issue so they started from there (when they should had probably redesign the two units separately). If there issue an with the unit that role/place and not its performance which is simply not trash as some people claim. In: COH2 Balance