How many people have to say that t1/Penal are NOT ok before redesign?
The unit is fine and does not need a redesign. Also, the mod team has told you many times that saying the word "re-design" over and over again won't help them to make the unit better. |
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I learnt how to deal with Penals knowing that they have an AT satchel ages ago, people need to go on with the times. |
You can argue the stat with SyphonX, they might or might not have issues.
Point here is the according to stats there not a "massive" fuel difference between 1vs1 and 4vs4 as claimed by a certain user especially early in the game.
Do not deflect. That's absolute garbage. If you are bringing someone else's data to the table as part of an argument, you should be ready to support it, and not drop it the moment someone else finds holes in your debate. Also, you're once again ignoring everything else that has just been said and trying to push across that you're right but you still being again completely wrong as usual. Just accept that Kat is right, there are massive differences between 1on1 and 4on4, and you are wrong and that even your argument makes no sense.
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Right here:
https://www.coh2.org/topic/61229/resource-income-per-game-mode/page/1#post_id609470
and there not "mythical", they are quite reliable and tell a different story than your theory.
"That said, the difference between 1v1 and 4v4 is smaller than I expected (around 200 fuel after 60 minutes). Also, it is noteworthy that before about 14 minutes the fuel incomes is slightly lower in the larger game modes. "
As usual, you are misreading the stats, obviously not understanding it, taking a sentence out of the whole thread, and you are not connecting the data to the game. The data shows the average overall for ALL players for a whole match for each player for each game mode. In 4on4, even what OP describes as "slightly lower" fuel results in an N to the power of (player count) impact on the game-play due to the faster income. It is a massive difference in the end. This is easily noticeable by comparing the gameplay of 1on1 and 4on4; they have barely anything in common but the first few minutes. So even if the difference is in terms of numbers quite low, it is actually a big difference in the game flow. There is no basis for what consists of what you describe as "slightly lower"; it is just an observational description, not a fact related to the game (and you take one sentence out of a whole thread) that it is. A unit that arrives on the field even just a few seconds earlier changes the whole game. Make that times 8 (for all players) and you got a whole different game with every timing gone out of the window. It's great data, but it does suddenly said data and a few sentences becoming the ultimate fact that cannot be debated. There are loads of other things that don't make sense in the data if you actually read it.
There are still massive gameplay changes between the game modes. So what Katitof says is correct, and you're wrong again.
Yes.
Map dynamics/map control change completely mode to mode, influencing timings massively.
In 1s and 2s you have map constantly changing hands, making tech and units arrive later, in 3s and 4s its pretty static once you claim it and cache spam doesn't help either.
And units are balanced with assumption that player can use them to their full extend, that clearly doesn't help players who can't even spell units name properly.
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You're not really meant to use the KT in a game mode where MASS AT is the key to victory.
If you really want to use the KT properly, pair up with your teammate who either gets a KT too, or they go mass Stugs/Panthers/Pgrens or Elefs. |
LoL developers have a different opinion:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BpBh9UMOvlU
Are you really buying that? it's similar to Pepsi saying that their product tastes better than others. It's just plain PR. If you really take Riot seriously for balance issues, then you have kind of lost all forum credibility. |
This does not work.
Why, have you been to the future, tried it there, and returned back to our time?
Give it a few hours, the servers tend to get really buggy and laggy when new things are happening. Which there is. |
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If at this point you cannot engage in any self-reflection to your posts, emotions, decisions, and behaviours in this forum which are likely reflected in-game, then I really cannot help you. I think that Relic did the right thing slapping on your wrists. Go chill in the corner away from the PC. |
[...] spoiling the match and also the system which is ALLOWING THEM
The enforcement system works because the TK you reported got time banned, and you have been time banned too for reasons you don't tell us but are rather obvious through your posts. People spoiling the fun are gone!
It's OK to vent, but you really need to reflect on your actions. I mean, read this, that's totally not acceptable. If you behave like that in-game, that's proof enough for your bann.
"look, i have no idea what got you banned, nor does it interest me in the slightest." SO YOU SHOULD SHUT UP in the first place instead of uttering "OBVIOUS REASONS". 2ndly, "i can, however, tell you what i would NOT do if i were in your shoes, and that certainly includes going on a rant about how incapable relic's enforcement team is or how admin abuse (whatever this is supposed to mean) is allegedly going rampant here or elsewhere. instead, you could just try to get in contact with either Sturmpanther or directly with JohnT_RE and try to handle the matter privately, without the drama you're apparently after." PEOPLE POST HERE when they see some kind of odd problems like these and it does not INCLUDE THE CONDITION THAT THEY HAVE TO BE IN SOMEONE'S shoe.. YOU ARE NOT A GOD HERE THAT I SHOULD FOLLOW YOU. JohnT RE and STURMPANTHER are not sitting all day to hear my message or anything. Besides we haven't got all day to do this. You are the one here is putting an unnecessary drama by talking like this.. ITS NOT YOUR PROBLEM ALSO.. AND ALSO YOU SAID THAT IT DOES NOT INTEREST YOU. SO WHY ARE YOU SQUABBLING TOO MUCH after you are shown facts and TALKING "IF I WERE IN YOUR SHOE , I would have done that" I DID NOT ASK FOR YOUR SUGGESTION.. THEY LOCKED IT BECAUSE it caused "ODD TRUTH hurting stuff" .. A lot of professional COH2 players started giving bad review to COH2 A VERY BAD REVIEW like >>>"game 9/10 ,,, DEVS 1/10"<<<< ... AND THAT IS NOT BECAUSE OF FREE WILL BUT BEING FEDUP.. HOW ARE YOU GOING TO EVEN EXPLAIN THAT?. My previous post got locked because they showed me reason: DISRESPECTFUL TO DEVELOPERS... So plz close your mouth for now. RULES ARE MEANT TO be IMPLIED in correct ways but not WHIMSICALLY. OTHERWISE the base number player of this game wouldn't have turned to 5000 presently whereas in 10 years SC2 ( an RTS game) don't have low number of players and still that game is remaining popular because their devs and managers are not such careless.
in addition, I definitely call out players that MAP HACKS in CUSTOM CHALLENGES but gets crushed by random players in automatch 2v2,3v3 and 4v4. Players like those deserve to be called out.
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Salt? that's the problem with you people and twist the fact with "SALTY"... TEAMKILLING, PRANKING , m OTHER PLAYERS with free coh2 2nd accounts, and a lot other TOYING stuff those so called COOL BRAINED people do to others, seems ACCEPTABLE, right?  . Turning a 30+ , 40+ minutes of a match while having a situation of 450-40 Tickers(as for example) situation into a total defeat by doing those stuff( While 1 player carrying the other teammate against oppponent player since the start) , seems quite normal to you,right? After working whole day and remaining busy, if someone has to face such stuff while gaming for a while to take a bit pleasure but instead these happen, I don't see anything wrong in being so angry like this which you call "BEING SALTY" ...NO, I don't need the lesson. But thus you people allow spoiling the environment of this game like this slowly and gradually by not allowing to talk STRONGLY against these by regarding "salty". and then base player number: 5000 and also going down day by day gradually to GG.
Actually you are not in suspension.So how would you feel the way I am feeling now? People don't care unless they face the same.
That post confirms exactly what I said above. lulz.
Enjoy your time off the game and use that time wisely to reflect on your actions and behaviour. It's just a temporary ban, so you'll back soon. Go play something else if you hate COH that much. |
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