I tried to make the unit several times but it's clearly overshadowed by the brummbar. Get a P4 it's better. The unit has no space in any game mode at all.
I guess the main problem with the E8 that it is a lacklustre unit stuck in a very lacklustre commander. People expect more from an endgame unit than it being able to beat braindead players with P4s.
q bu the claim it "bring nothing" is simply false.
But why? Ez8 has brought nothing before the patch, it was discussed to bring nothing during the patch, it still brings nothing after the patch as the changes are quantitatively useless. Your claim that the EZ8 is fine which you insist on is wrong as usual. The Ez8 is bad and the commander goes again in the bin. It brings factually nothing.
Easy 8 is still trash and finds no play in 2on2s. It gets countered by anything axis without problem, and it cannot counter anything. It found no play in the mod, the feedback was ignored, and the commander is still trash. I would have loved playing against more e8 commanders and more ukf but all I get now is soviet spam. Soviets everywhere. Incredibly useless balance decisions by the balance team, the changes to the e8 commander did nothing. Even worse that people still argue that e8 its good when it's just trash. I love my Ost buffs and changes but the state of the game me as axis versus Soviets now doing the same stuff every game but now against b4. That's all the patch did. Added b4 to Soviets. That's what we get as an axis driven community.
UKF was a useless irrelevant faction before the patch, and it will stay irrelevant and useless after the patch. UKF will stay the most underplayed faction until it receives larger changes to its core. People can twist the stats as much as they want, but the faction has factually the least amount of games in every faction. It has significant problems with its core, and no commanders will solve that.
There are many player even top player that do not agree with current Penal/T1 design.
Here is GiaA
here is elchino7
now pls stop pretending as if I am the only one that says Penal/t1 is badly designed.
None of the quotes provided ask for a simple full redesign the way you want. Smaller changes, yes. You are effectively continuously asking for a full redesign which you keep calling 'simple', but you refuse to provide any details what a simple redesign is, or you repeat to everyone 'to just look them up' (as discussed in previous threads), and you are constantly deflecting. And you are taking only parts of people quote and ignoring the rest of what they have written.
So, tell us, what is a simple full redesign of Penals according to you?
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