Profile of JibberJabberJobber

Well if the G43 upgrade was to be made better for Grenadiers, you could safely increase the price to 60 munitions.

Currently I only ever get G43's for Panzergrenadiers once they get out DPS'd too hard at long range (think allot of Bren Sections). Their G43's do about 25% more damage, they get 3 instead of 2 and their RA is allot better. Drawbacks are the much higher initial cost and no faust, but it quite easily pays itself back because their reinforcement cost is only 4mp higher.


With Jaeger Infantry I either skip T1 or get Grens but with LMG's and camo (not very viable because of cost, but fun because of the huge burst damage).

This along with the price reduction on the P4 allows builds that go straight to a P4 to get it 45 fuel earlier. If you go for Ostwind you can get it 55-65 fuel earlier. Why is timing of vehicles being ignored? Noone in their right mind thinks current OKW Ostwind arrives 55-65 fuel too late to be balanced.

In my opinion of you made the BGHQ like this, you should make the medics 5 fuel and require the Mechanized HQ to be built before the Schwerer is up.

It says:

Cost from 200mp/25fu to 50mp/5fu. [...]
Motorized Support upgrade added. Cost 150mp/20fu. [...]
SPHQ and Tiger II require a fully upgraded (except medics) BG HQ

So the skirtless P4 would come 20 fuel earlier, while the Flamehetzer and Ostwind would come 30-40 fuel earlier.

I think with this suggestion, OKW's Ostwind still wouldn't come faster than Ostheer Ostwind if rushed (if Schwerer would cost 90 fuel):
-10+10+5+20+10+90+100 = 225
-20+40+105+100 = 225

That said, I prefer a 100 fuel schwerer with a 20 fuel upgrade just for the flak, Panther and KT, without the skirtless P4 stuff, it would be less of a balance risk and still keep OKW's tank tech the most expensive.

A change for the sake of change that fixes absolutely nothing. If your vehicle dies to a teller it's because you didn't have a sweeper nearby and deserve to lose the light vehicle.

The light vehicle would still very likely be dead if it hit a teller on the frontline, while chasing units to base or while flanking. It's mostly to give the allied player an opportunity to repair it he hits a teller on his own "safe" territory (a fair reason imo, other mines allow the same).

Of course the issues are that it forces Ostheer to go for a 222 even more to finish crippled vehicles off and that it would make the Stuart with crit repair much more survivable. Cheaper tellers would also make AAHT's even riskier to go for. But it's worth considering.

I wonder who it was that disputed Tightrope's video on the AoE adjustments and claimed his own personal opinion was the valid one.

I haven't followed this drama about Tightrope, but I think Tiger being hit hardest is just a result from Stein Grenadier's AoE calculator.

My thoughts on some of the suggestions for the other factions:

Penals (experimental change)
In order to make this unit slightly more balanced over the course of the entire match, while also making Penal openings slightly more viable by increasing the speed at which they hit the field, some adjustments are made to their scalability.

• Cost from 300mp to 280mp
  
• Build time reduced by ~10s
  
• Now spawns with 4x SVT and 2x Conscript Mosin Nagant
  
• Now has two upgrade paths: AT upgrade path replaces 2x MN with 2x PTRS and AI upgrade path replaces 2x MN with 2x SVT
  
• AI upgrade cost gives access to smoke grenades
  
• AI upgrade cost 50 munitions
  

50 munitions for 2 SVT's is a terrible deal, the smoke grenade doesn't make up for this because you usually don't want to spend munitions just to spend more munitions.

Overall this suggestion just seems too complicated. I feel Penals just need slightly decreased buildtime and lower reinforcement cost (they bleed hard because of their bad RA).

M5 Halftrack
The M5 is given more utility with a healing option. The AA power is being reduced to become more in line with other similar units.

• Unupgraded halftrack can now drop a single med crate (no AOE heal) for 15 munitions
  
• Quad upgrade AA power reduced (values to be determined later)
  

15 muni and no AoE heal is too situational for my taste. The 251 model with healing inside when not in combat would be fine and only buff the unupgraded M5.

Rear Echelon Grenade Launcher (Urban Assault)
Reload time of the grenade launcher is being increased to make counter play (moving out of the way) a bit easier. This should hopefully make the grenade launcher less effective in blobs.

• Reload time increased by 0.5-1s
  

This is just a badly designed weapon upgrade. The opponent has to dodge every nade with no micro investment from the US player.

It should be replaced with the ability for Rear Echelons to fire a Rifle Grenade like Grenadiers, this would also make it more useful on higher levels.

Schwerer Panzer HQ (experimental change)
Experimental change to the cost split of the structure and Panzer Authorization costs, in order to make fully upgraded Obersoldaten come sooner, as well as the doctrinal vehicles. In addition, as a reactionary vehicle, the Jagdpanzer IV can be placed in the first stage as well.

• Cost from 100mp/60fu to 100mp/80-90fu. Panzer Authorization from 100mp/60 to 100mp/30-40fu.
  
• Stock SPHQ now unlocks Obersoldaten with access to weapon upgrades; Jagdpanzer IV, and the doctrinal Ostwind and Hetzer
  
• Panzer Authorization unlocks Panzer IV, Panther and access to Tiger II
  

This could work, but it seems strange to "force" OKW to go for specialized vehicles with tech benefits, while other factions can just get a medium whenever they want.

After the Tiger and Command Panther crutch got removed, it revealed just how expensive it is for OKW to unlock tanks compared to other factions, therefore I'd propose the following:

• SPHQ cost to 150mp/100fu
  
• Unlocks everything except the KT requirement and Panther.
  
• Flak gun upgrade for 50mp/20fu, unlocks Panther and is a requirement for the KT
  
• Perhaps allow the Flak gun to attack ground because it's less of a no-brainer now
  
• P4 J unchanged
  

Sturmpioneers
Some quality changes to Sturmpioneers to make their abilities (including the med crates) easier to use and to make their anti-tank package more viable to increase strategic diversity.

• Stun Grenade cost from 30 munitions to 15 munitions to standardize cost with other similar grenades
  
• Cost of Panzerschreck upgrade from 70 munitions to 60 munitions
  
• BG/Mech HQ now unlocks access to a second Panzerschreck (additional 60 munitions)
  
• Medical Supplies cost from 45 to 30, now drops 2 med crates instead of 3. Cooldown removed.
  

Stun grenade cost shouldn't be reduced, OKW already has allot of force multipliers to win infantry engagements early on (sandbags, powerful starting unit and "techless" STG's and flame nades).

Personally, I'd like to see Sturms changed to be slightly less oppressive early on, but less punishing to lose and easier to get a second one:

• Cost from 300mp to 260mp
  
• Starting weapons from STG's to Assault Grenadier MP40's.
  
• Sweeper upgrade cost increased from 30 to 60 munitions. Arms the squad with STG's.
  
• Double Schreck upgrade once BG/Mech HQ is up for 100-120 munitions (locks sweeper upgrade).
  

Flak HT 251/17
The 251/17 is still not very popular due to how vulnerable it is, and how clumsy it is to use. By allowing it to fire on the move and giving it slightly higher penetration, it should hopefully be slightly better at fending off enemy light vehicles, to make it a more competitive choice compared to the Mechanized HQ light vehicles.

• Can now fire on the move (0.5 moving accuracy); needs to set up to cause suppression
  
• Penetration from 30/30/30 to 40/40/40
  
• Cost increased from 270mp/50fu to 290mp/55fu
  

I like it, but allowing it to fire on the move sounds like an overbuff, no reason it should be able to defend itself while moving while the USF AAHT can't (except with its mg's).

Stuka (experimental change)
The Stuka can be both very oppressive and very bad, because barrages can be devastating (especially to team weapons) but can also be dodged very easily (by infantry). By reducing the AOE damage but adding suppression, the unit’s performance should become more lineair (less wipey but also more reliable). The added suppression should also give OKW a good anti-blob platform. These changes will also make it perform better against emplacements and lightly armored vehicles, while making it worse against tanks.

• Rocket AOE nerfed. Rockets now cause suppression similar to the Panzerwerfer
  
• Rocket penetration from 0/0/0 to 40/40/40. Rocket AOE penetration from 200/180/162 to 40/40/40. Deflection damage from 40 to 50 (all identical to other rocket artillery)
  
• Incendiary Barrage moved from vet 4 to vet 1 (with additional adjustments if needed)
  
• Vet 2 replaced with +100% penetration on rockets (?), vet 4 replaced with -20% cost of Incendiary Barrage ability (?)
  
• Fuel cost from 100 to 80-90
  
  

With how essential the Panzerwerfer is in team games, I'd move it to the HQ and require Schwerer, while adding the Mortar Halftrack to Mechanized. This would also allow an earlier anti-garrison tool for OKW if they decide to go Mechanized.

Overall I'd take a different approach for the Stuka:

• Moved to Schwerer (Mortar HT added to Mech)
  
• Fuel cost from 100 to 80-90
  
• Line barrage replaced with a normal scatter barrage (think coh1).
  
• Incendiary barrage moved to Feuerstorm doctrine (with additional adjustments if needed).
  
• Line barrage unlocked at veterancy 2-3, possibly with a slight munition cost.
  

I like your ideas allot. Here's my view on some of the Ostheer proposals, which is my main faction:

Panzerschreck (all factions, experimental change)
In order to make Panzerschrecks a more viable option against light vehicles, its far accuracy is being increased. As compensation, its damage is being reduced. This will make the alpha strike potential against vehicles slightly worse (decreasing the effectiveness of “Schreck blobs”), while the higher accuracy should keep the total damage per minute roughly similar.

• Damage from 120 to 100
  
• Accuracy from 0.069/0.052/0.028 to 0.069/0.052/0.036 (for example chance to hit a T-70 at long range goes from 50% to 65%)
  

Instead of a slight accuracy bonus at long range, I'd reduce the reload time of Schrecks by ~20%. All 3 Schreck units get substantial accuracy bonusses with veterancy anyway (+40%), so reduced damage would just make them scale much worse against anything bigger than a T70. An increased chance of a second volley would be much more valuable.

I'm speaking from the perspective of 1v1 where Schrecks are barely used (too ineffective against lights, too squishy during late game). If reduced reload time would make Schrecks too blobbable in team games, I'd at least give the reduced damage back at vet 3 for squads that can upgrade them.

Headquarters
By giving Ostheer an option to deploy medics at their base for a fuel cost, it should give players a choice to use fuel rather than munitions to get their medics. This should help Ostheer with their early munitions economy, by making weapons upgrades and Teller Mines available faster, should the player choose so.

• Now has a medic upgrade available for 150mp/10fu. Spawns 3 automatron medics
  

I feel this would make it a no-brainer over the med bunker. 10 fuel isn't much of an issue with cheap T2 vehicles and relatively cheap T3 tech. Furthermore, it would require no unit to build and cannot be destroyed by an enemy vehicle like the bunker.

I'd look for a different solution like decreasing LMG42 cost from 60 to 50 munitions (LMG Grens are the only mainline that make Ostheer very stretched for munitions) or just making the med bunker slightly cheaper by 15 munitions.

Pioneers
Offensive veterancy for Eastern Front engineer units serves very little purpose, so this is being replaced by defensive veterancy to make them a bit more durable in the late game.

• Vet 3 +15% accuracy bonus replaced with -23% received accuracy
  

Their veterancy requirements are also higher compared to other builders unit, which makes it hard to ever get to vet 3 in the first place.

Teller Mines
Adjusting the performance and cost of Teller Mines should both increase their availability and make them less oppressive for the enemy, giving a positive net result. With these changes they will no longer instantly kill light vehicles, and will require a follow up (Panzerfaust etc.) to finish one.

• Cost reduced from 60 munitions to 45 munitions
  
• Damage from 400 to 320
  
• Now guarantees a heavy engine damage critical on light vehicles
  

Tellers cost 50 munitions currently, not 60 munitions, so a reduction to 40 munitions might be more fair.

It would be a big buff to the Stuart, which can just pop out and repair the engine damage for 25 munitions. If possible, a teller should give both light engine damage and heavy engine at the same time, so crit repair isn't as effective against it. If not, the Stuart should at least get a unique "Stuart Vehicle Crew" with repair critical cost increased to the cost of a teller.

222
The 222 is a very good light vehicle but with the relatively fast arrival of Allied light vehicles that can counter it, it can easily get caught out of position because it’s relatively slow. Replacing its vet 1 ability with a Speed Boost ability should help it escape slightly more often.

• Vet 1 Infantry Awareness replaced by Speed Boost ability
  
• Speed Boost ability: 30 munitions, grants +25% top speed and +20% acceleration, -50% weapon accuracy (or main weapon disabled) for 20 seconds
  

It would be a shame to see such a useful ability like infantry awareness be removed from another unit. I think the performance of the 222 against the Stuart and T70 is fine (at least in 1v1), it's just the (current) AEC that has too many benefits stacked against it. IMO, smoke of the Puma and AEC should be locked behind vet 1 to reduce their effectiveness at diving early on.

Also, this would be the worst speed boost ability in the game with the highest cost, lowest acceleration bonus, worst drawback and no additional bonus like reduced received accuracy.

Panzer Tactician
Panzer Tactician is too easy to use because it deploys smoke instantly. By adding a delay, it will become slightly less powerful.

• Now has a 0.5s delay before deploying
  

This should be extended to all smoke abilities that function like Panzer Tactician.

Nerfing Panzer Tactician would also make it unnecessary for the AT grenade to work through smoke, which afaik was added as a band-aid solution a long time ago when Panzer Tactician was much more prevalent and Allies (back then just Soviets) had no such ability of their own. This would also stop the AT grenade from working through sight blockers like hedges and walls.

Jaeger Armor Doctrine
Jaeger Armor doctrine is incredibly popular because the commander is very versatile, on top of fielding a superheavy call-in vehicle. By replacing one of its abilities, it should give the commander an additional weakness and make it more attractive to pick other commanders instead.

• Stuka Dive Bomb replaced with Ambush Training (or any other ability that is good but relatively low impact)
  
• Elefant can no longer use Spotting Scope upgrade
  

Replacing Stuka Dive Bomb is cool, but Ambush Training would be much too strong and annoying (sprinting Fausts and Schrecks and cloaked Bundles and MG's every game, imagine the horror).

I'd pick the single AT pass from CAS doctrine and buff it slightly or add AT Osttruppen with AT rifles to keep the doctrine thematic. Sandbags for mainlines from Osttruppen doctrine would also be enticing, they'd have increased buildtime after all.

Get JLI to spot the emplacement in cover, then get 3 raketens. They'Il kill a reinforced unbraced Bofors in 3 volleys (1280 HP). Keep some Volks close to grab the Raketens if they die to mortars and get an MG to prevent UKF from blobbing your position. Charge in with everything once he's forced to brace, chuck flame nades and kill the repair station(s).

LeiGs are too slow at dealing with emplacements and don't help against a Cromwell follow-up. I'd get 1 at most as alternative to the JLI, whenever a LeiG hits, it reveals the emplacement for a few seconds so the super inaccurate attack ground isn't necessary. When not bombarding the emplacements (read: AT guns not in position), target repair stations and occupied trenches instead.

Same applies to Ostheer with Paks and Sniper.