I get your point, the way say this.
It makes me think you never played ost. You'd realize no allied aerial ability ability ever gets shot down as fast it happens the other way around even if had tanks with pintles, 222 and even Ostwinds.
It's true that OST is more RNG with AA but that's mostly because they have quantity over quality since they have Pintles as you say as well as possibly a 222 if you keep it alive for late game Recon. Any of which can randomly shoot done the plane let alone the chances if multiple are present. Either way an Ostwind's AA is more than good enough to shorten the duration of a Recon plane to counter it's effects even if that's the only AA on the map way before it encroaches on OP territory. It's not like Recon Plane has KT armor or something like OP would have you believe just because he watched one cast where Tightrope points out how useful the Recon Plane was...
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If only there was some kind of counter that could rapidly shoot down planes and cause the other player to basically waste munitions. Also, Spec Ops flares would like to have a word with you. |
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You can always watch Tightrope for inspiration. He's always doing wacky non-meta or slightly off meta stuff in his casts. |
We already have commanders at ost and soviet with this combination of onmap artillery + delete opponent howitzer with one click.
Well yeah. But "There is other cancer so let's add more" isn't exactly a good idea for a good game experience. If anything I'm hopeful that the next commander revamp will take out some of the commanders with overly strong combos and smooth out the power curve a little. |
Precision Barrage is indeed quite strong, but also quite expensive, imo having it and a 25 pounder in the same doctrine wouldn't be that strong, needs testing. Thing is, I wouldn't remove that ability entirely from the game, so if it's deemed strong in this doctrine then it should be moved to an another.
One thing to keep in mind is that some people will try to counter howitzers with other howitzers. Having an offmap that can nuke other howitzers in a doctrine with a howitzer might be too good depending on how the 25 pounder in implemented. |
They all need to go play 4v4 with random people that dont do anything their suppose to do, and see how good they are then. 4v4 is where its at.
Like getting hard countered by MG34s?
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The commander has Precision barrage already whixch is really strong. It makes no sense to give him a second ability of the same kind which is just a little bit weaker and cheaper. UKF needs onmap artillery the most, so remove emplacement buff ability and CB. Give him an onmap artillery piece and something like Designate Command Vehicle and it is okay.
That's a good point. Since the the point of CB is to displace opposing artillery from countering your glorious Sim City I think the Concentrated Arty fills that role better (while simultaneously working like CB). It would probably make more sense to remove Precision Barrage and replace it with something that fits the commander flavor. I do think on-map artillery option would be a good thing for Brit diversity so you don't have to go Land Mattress or Sexton every time you want serious artillery options. |
The 17 pounder is the large AT gun they can already build, whereas the 25 pounder is the Base Howitzer. I know which you meant, but other people might be confused.
Thank you UK naming conventions.
Fixed the post. I bet the shells weighed the same as 17 currency Pounds and not American weight pounds anyway  |
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The potential problem with scuttle is that for it to work you'd have to do have the dismantle time be fairly quick (presumably because you anticipate an imminent off-map). Otherwise you get caught during the scuttle process and it's all for naught. I suppose you could balance it out by having the rebuild time be long enough so that you can't just effortlessly move it around constantly/ lose out on barraging time. |
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Cancer Commander is probably on the short list of commanders that will be targeted for the supposed next Commander Revamp patch. (Along with Special Weapons). My guess is they'll probably do something like give it the Concentrated Barrage from Arty Regiment and call it a day. It would be cool if they could implement the buildable 25 Pounder but I don't know how you'd balance that with the base 25 pounders (I don't know if being able to double barrage stuff would be OP or not) |
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