Profile of Troyd

Fuc game balance

Now I back to Lv. 16

Retarded game balance and matchmaking

You won all of these games; and are still complaining?

Further did any of the advice provided by people in this thread help?


Game 1:

• At 17 Minutes, you had enough for a medium tank. Build one.
  
• I get you were waiting for command panther, but you had enough to have two tanks out by the time you were using that thing alot
  
  

Game 2:

• Played well, but would've avoided 4 volks and given map control put down an earlier schwer and got double ober out
  
• Still worked out regardless.
  

Game 3:

• Played well, actually built your tanks when needed and used fuel.
  
• Just remember to transition to obers in the late game.
  

Your text..

Here is the replay

Hey there Howie, some things I noticed in your replay.

• you didn't use the OKW flak half track in your first game. This unit invaluable for early game control and destroying allied aircraft late game. Med bases also synergize extremly well with an OST partner.
  
• Your early mid game build in the second game was actually great - late game transition awful though.
  
• Don't build IR halftracks, they are a waste of pop cap (unless you're dominating).
  
• Don't build an MG early if you have a halftrack - they are basically the same thing. Ifyou lose the halftrack, by all means get an MG.
  
• Use ISG smoke to shutdown MGs. In your second game you couldve taken the right side so many times with smoking the building then pushing in.
  
• Build obers, they are cheap as fuck now and shit kick allied infantry. Your volks will eventually bleed out, so replace them with units that can carry you late game.
  
• Select your doctrines earlier,the OKW stock army isn't really enough right now.
  
• Don't build P4s if you already have a bunch of anti infantry (4 volks, mg + FHT) get a panther or JP4 to round out your AT.
  
  
  

The medic truck, on top of all that, imbues a reinforcement penalty on top of all those costs. This was specifically because of OKW's reinforcing capabilities, if you can believe it.

This is misleading. The only penalty is a reinforcement time increase when the forward retreat point is active. There is no manpower increase. Ideally, don't ever get the FRP upgrade and just soft retreat squads to maintain a forward presence. Or... at least toggle off FRP before reinforcing your squads.

Place your med base a bit forward - not far enough forward to be an artillery magnet. But enough to minimize the replenishment time of your troops when soft retreating in order to improve your field presence.

I could really use some help with the 1v1 scenario when I play OKW vs. Soviet. The problem is fairly simple: If the Soviet player spams Maxims and follow up with the T-70 I'm toast. I've tried all the solutions I can think of (which aren't many):

Fighting the Maxims:

I've tried the ISG with incendiary rounds which would be a viable solution except for the fact that it requires constant micromanagement and protection since it can't retreat. It also requires too many ressources (since I have to have units that nearly exclusively is on protection detail) and too much micro management compared to the soviet player who can simply setup this squad from Hell and forget about it since it can hold it's own just fine.

I've tried preventing the Maxims from setting up be attacking deep in enemy territory but since they can setup (and pack up if needed) in the blink of an eye this doesn't seem to work either. The Maxim squad can escape long before I can put it down.

And yes, I've tried attacking them from multiple sides with little to no succes. Again: This method requires too much micromanagement and the Maxim turns and adjusts too quickly in order for it to be effective.

The T-70? This ace is incredibly powerful in my opinion: Highly deadly versus infantry, it's armor is waaay superior to the Luchs and don't get me started on it's circling ability versus the larger tanks in my arsenal. Helpful advice is highly appreciated since I love the versatility of OKW. Anyone?

Have you tried the flak track? It comes before the t70, and with a raketen backing it up (or well placed mine), it is impossible to dive by the T70. With proper sighting and targetting, the halftrack will win all engagements with infantry (even guards) allowing you some serious map control. It also has escape smoke and at vet 2 gets increased damage allowing it to almost actually kill a t70 solo.

It also forces any reasonable soviet to invest into some sort of antitank much earlier then they would normally - meaning one less maxim to deal with. If they do build a ZIS, you can take comfort in the fact they are slow and take two hits to kill the HT. Meaning, you can just drive yorr flak track to the other side of the map and go knock down a maxim over there.

Lastly, with maxim death loops, there's a high probability that you'll decrew one as well when it first hits the field (and you suprise them) and can steal it. As the HT will deal both suppression and reasonable AOE damage.

Assuming you keep the damn thing alive, it will continue to win you infantry engagments and hedge against those pesky IL2s.

For a more advanced suggestion play, try rushing pumas. They have a coaxial which deals decent damage and a turret which occasional kills models. Maxims can't do shit against pumas, so you can just drive up into their face and force them to retreat or die. Additionally, it hard counters the T70, and can even fight t34s with proper management.

I preface this with the realization you are posting your humble opinion and placed disclaimers on it. I also understand you're just venting; and yes this is one of the "places" to post such concerns for debate.

However, I think your opinion is riddled with false hoods and logical progressions about the game that aren't helpful to people reading this forum.

It seems that the heart of COH, luck/rng, tactics, and battlefield conditions is being replaced by a more streamlined, DOW/Starcraft style system that has hard damage values dictating the outcome of battle.

Disagreed, by comparison CoH is about battlefield maneuvers, unit preservation and on the fly tactics. Having units you can consistently rely upon, does not change this formula - it only enhances it by opening up more tactical options available to you.

The RNG component of this game is very alive and kicking. It is shown every engagement, every directional bullet calculation, every tank/arty shot that scatters, every plane that is randomly shot down etc etc Most things in this game are statistically reliable, with proabilities of shit going wrong and right to a degree.

This is exemplified by the Conscripts and Osttruppen, who both have near-perfect accuracy, but very low damage.

The whole problem with these units before the patch was due to their unreliable damage profiles; you could not use them in a competitive setting. Specifically, you could not rely on them to exploit an opening in your opponents line that you created through some tactical brilliance.

A unit that isn't statistically reliable to a degree, will never be built - thus the change was needed.

so these units still do the same damage as other infantry, but hit much less, especially when the target is in cover.


This encourages spamming and blobbing, the contrary to what most people want. Shifting the focus from accuracy to damage means that they will do consistent, low damage to all types of (infantry) units behind/in any cover, rather than doing almost no damage at all due to not hitting anything

This is not how cover works. You and I are playing two different games my friend. For one: Cover significantly improves the received accuracy of your troops, meaning it reduces the accuracy of the troops firing at you. Green cover also reduces damage on top of that.

Therefore, contrary to your assertion... increased accuracy on troops makes cover even MORE IMPORTANT.

This is because being outside of cover puts you at a serious disadvantage in even contests. Leaving your cover to charge a bunch of ostruppen or conscripts in green cover over an open field, is a bad idea right now because they can hit you reliably as you cross over that terrain.

Previous to the current patch, conscripts would not hit you reliably, therefore you could just ignore their positional advantage and charge them. I do not wish to return to a game where someone with superior position is at a tactical disadvantage (lower accuracy conscripts)

It even makes whole aspects of the game obsolete. Cover is pretty much useless if the accuracy is near-perfect. Why use effort, lose rate-of-fire and time to try and get my units into good positions when there are no good positions?

See above, your arguments don't make tactical sense. Being in cover increases the durability of units and reduces the hit chance and damage received. Being outside of cover, regardless of accuracy is a disadvantage.

The above is why flanking is so important... because it negates cover!

Mortars now do less damage and have a smaller AOE

What game are you playing? This is simply not true. Their profiles are mostly unchanged.

https://clips.twitch.tv/WimpyLivelyBeefPeoplesChamp

Check out this clip, Wehrmacht mortars in the current patch just annihilate everything. It's borderline broken if your opponent doesn't move their troops. Tell me that I deserve such a powerful 240mp artillery unit, I don't.

USF - their stock mortar is also very powerful, but shorter rangesd and a slower ROF then the wehrmacht one (also essential in any top level build). The 120 for soviets is just as brutal, if not worse for its extended range.

This encourages spamming and blobbing, the contrary to what most people want.

Blobbing and spamming are inherently weak strategems. Blobbing is susceptible to suppression, this is because the received supression modifier is increased in proportion to the number of nearby units.

Ie. A blob of 4 squads will be insta suppressed by an RE with a bar using volley fire if its big enough, more commonly a single burst of an MG will suppress any group of squads moving together

Spamming of a particular units is also just as weak, since the shortcomings of a particular unit type now become the property of your entire army. Your opponent only needs to build one or two of the counters in order to deal with your entire army effectively.

Ie. Build 8 cons? 2 OKW halftracks effectively end for 20% of the cost of your 8 cons.

Using either spamming or blobbing of the above methods of thinking, will only return short term results and more importantly severely limit the strategic options available to you. thus, putting a ceiling the skill level you can actually acheive in this game.

in COH1, in COH1, in COH1, in COH1

There is a reason this is called CoH2, and not CoH1. The game design is intentionally different. I advocate you play CoH1?

Lastly: the game you seem to want to play is men of war (any version) where things are far more "realistic", and no care for balance thrown into the mix of the game.