You won't find "nerf" word it that thread.
Thread was about Jaeger utility.
Thread was very clean and helpful to understand Jaeger until you came in.
End of story.
Ok, next time I will use my Rifles and Paras with 1919 at close range. Thanks for tip.
Allied units are not worse... 120mm, B4, ISU, Sniper. I guess the only units that Axis don't have something bigger and better to response.
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LMG's are obviously for better DPS at mid to long range, but getting in close to units like Grens/Fuss/Volks to do a shitload of DPS to them and wipe them because you do a lot more with BARS/PPsH/Garands/Mosin in close range is just how the game works.
Unless I have LMG's I'm not going to sit out at long range, it's the reason whys Obers are so bloody OP is because they have this free LMG that does stupid amounts of DPS at long range.
The IS2 is better than the Tiger, T34/85 better than the Panzer IV, ZiS only has 10 less pen than Pak40 but can also kill inf, Cons beat Volks, Riflemen beat Volks/Fuss/JLI/Grens, Para's beat every Axis unit except Obers. 82mm mortar has a better Vet ability, Katyusha is far better than the Pwerf.
Could go on all day dude, stop buying into the Krupp steel meme and harden up. |
In Wolfenstein the New Order they are called Ubersoldat, instead of Obersoldat
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No they are not OP.
Spawning behind lines is OP/Broken/Rewarding without micro, not the unit.
Still want me to prove you how Paths are losing against Jaegers? Cause in every single thread you post something like this "X unit is weaker than Y" or something else about game mechanic and 9/10 cases you are wrong.
You say shit like "Paths are way worse than JLI" which is obviously not true with a .8 second look through the unit stat files, as well as a .8 second look at the unit vet bonus's.
Stop blowing everything up bigger than it actually is, JLI are about equal to Pathfinders, at mid range which one wins is just pure RNG based on the sniping. At close Paths win, and long range JLI win.
And the spawning behind the lines thing isn't OP, it is with fallsch! But not JLI. |
Nobody fights at long range? 
This sentence just killed me.
If anyone is digging a hole, it's you 
I started thread about Jadgtiger when it was shooting through everything as OP unit.
I started thread about Luchs as OP unit since it has wipe everything and has 400 HP when compare to Stuart or T70.
I started thread about Jaeger, cause I wanted to know something about sniping ability - no OP.
I agree with Obers OP.
I agree with Schwerer OP.
Now, show me thread, post where Im saying that: SP, MG34, Falls, Jaeger, Panther, ST, KT, Jadpanzer, leig, Puma etc are OP. Guess what, you won't find it because opposite to you, Im not blinded fanboy and when something allied is OP I admit it but there we have problem. Axis units are better in almost everything. Allies dont have superior tank, infantry, etc. Only howitzers or I should say howitzer - B4 - which I agree should not kill KT in 1 shot when FMR used.
Im going to stop there. Won't feed a troll.
You just spent 3 pages of the JLI thread calling them units you don't need to micro that shouldn't come behind the lines, your thread was just a stealth call for nerfs thread, nothing more nothing less.
And yes nobody will fight at long range given the choice because if I'm an allied player I am never going to fight at long range because it's suicide. If I can do an insane amount of DPS up close why in gods name would I just plink at him from long range?
The only time long range DPS matters is on stupidly open maps with no cover like Steppes, the rest of them it's trivial because the units will be so close to each other thanks to the small size of the map, lack of open areas, and littering of cover.
Your continued instance that all allies units are worse when that has literally never been true is just annoying. |
You want to prove you that Jaeger will win at close range? And they will win even without losing of a single model.
Watch replay in the openening and say one more than that Jaeger must avoid enemy troops.
Wonder why this thread was about usage of Jaeger, until you came in with your amazing theories like in every other thread.
No one here is bithich or saying that Jaeger are OP, but it seems in your world, talking about Axis unit = bitching about it.
You keep demanding that they not be able to come in behind the lines, which seems really silly if they are by your own admission, not OP.
The JLI in your opening were rarely being shot at, and your opponent was acting like an idiot. You are the king of posting 1 replay and then demanding everyone bow down before said replay as 100% accurate proof of your righteousness.
JLI are in every way fine at the moment, they don't need nerfs, they don't need buffs. Pathfinders being able to come from builds is fine by me.
Hero of the Fuhrer, refuses to admit defeat as the Allies surround him with Logic.
Accusing me of being a Fascist, classy. |
Yes, briliant! Im going to spam FP so I wont have any infantry! Then my enemy gets Puma and all FP are gone.
Yes, MG34 is amazing since OKW is floating with MP.
Getting 2 of them and stick close to each other can cause problems.
Countless high level 1v1 games where MGs were deadly.
And again, stop saying anything about game mechanic. You were wrong so many many times... Fusi have better DPS than Rifles from 20 to 35 range and almost equal at 15. Rifles are better only 0-15.
Sing it with me now! Nobody fights at long range, no body fights at long range, nooooo bodddyyyy sitssss and fighttttts a long RANGE!
And FP spam a drain? Lmao dude early game your infantry is going to be owning him so hard getting a lot of FP's down really isn't an issue.
The MG34 is fine if you have several overlapping, but with the MG42 not being able to handle blobs you think a unit that's like it but WORSE in every way is going to fucking handle blobs?
Dude stop digging yourself a bigger hole, you seriously cannot stop yourself from bitching about every single unit OKW has, I'm surprised you haven't started a thread complaining about how OP elite armored is~ |
Jaeger vs Path at vet 0
Close range - Jaeger wins.
Long range - Jaeger wins.
Now add Jaeger's abilities and say one more time that Pathfinder are better
And Im no going to spawn them where Rifles or Cons are. Im going to spawn them behind crew weapons so without any micro I can move forward.
Close range Pathfinders have 12 more DPS than JLI do, and JLI do have good abilities, but they can't cloak at vet 0 like Paths can. They are similar, but each preforms about the same with Pathfinders being (and say it with me now) slightly better till they get out vetted.
And have you ever used JLI or storms? You need to micro the fuck out of them to avoid enemy troops so you can cause havoc, you are literally stating the opposite of reality in order to bitch about a unit almost nobody fucking uses.
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Partisans are "fragile" too.
Literally everyone agrees they need a buff, so this is a rather meaningless point.
Spawn them hide behind building, upgrade, wipe.
But it's not even about wiping.
Spawning behind such powerful squads and forcing enemy to retreat his MGs, Mortars or ZiSes without any micro is just broken and has no justification except Partisants.
You have never used the commander then I guess. The upgrade isn't instant and you can't do it outside of your territory.
If you don't watch any of your support weapons then yes he will force you to retreat, but both Storms and JLI are 4 man squads that are semi-fragile. One rifle squad can chase them off, and 2 con squads or a single shock squad can do the same.
You just seem pissed that Partisans suck, yes they need a buff, this does not mean JLI and Storms need to be made irrelevant. |
Are you serious, really?
Fusi, Jagers, Falls, MGs...
No one is pissed because of rifle blob. It's all about sending 1-2 units to cap, not blobbing to cap other side. It's bacis rule in CoH2. Cap points, multitasking, fight on one side, cap the other.
Do you see difference between BP and Schwerer? I can just go around arc of fire and kill it with few sec with 1 volks squad.
Do you even know how FP spam works? You have multiple FP's covering each other so they opponent can't get around you. There are multiple maps were you can put 2 FP's down and prevent any sort of push until they opponent has AT guns.
And Fusi and Jaegars ain't blob counters. Both have worse DPS than rifles and only modestly better DPS than cons. Fallsch are fragile as shit and very, very expensive.
lol the MG34 a blob counter, jesus christ man.
Nobody pissed about rifle blob? Have you ever played Ostheer versus a rifle spammer? |
I dont know why Relic even try to make JLI come out of buildings for OKW. The Army already has Falls does it really need another infantry squad coming out behind enemy lines? I wish Pathfinders and Paras did this to make it "fair".
1. You can't have JLI or Fallsch at the same time, they are in different commanders
2. Pathfinders are to fragile to be useful coming out of buildings
3. Para's come in by airplane, which can allow them to be dropped behind enemy lines, Fallsch should work the same way.
Not to mention they are better than Pathfinders too. I agree that Pathfinders should come from buildings.
They are literally equal with Paths being slightly better till JLI go beyond Vet 3. |
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