With the nerf obers, now they are juat regular elite troops instead of super soldiers. Thats right, now you have to use little bit of strategy for them now.
Not really, they just reduced their damage by 25%. They will still be quite good at their job, if maybe a bit expensive if your stretched thin on resources. |
It's also all of those things to assert that only a tiny minority of players are allowed to express an opinion on the game they paid good money for
This is par for the course for almost every game out there that's competitive. While the shitposting about rank here does get out of control, a large amount of players attempt to act like an authority with out even playing the faction they hate so much more than a few times.
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And then people wonder why I have a bad attitude towards "Elite" 1v1 players
You have a bad attitude toward almost everyone so... |
Ohh, but you couldn't be anymore wrong here!(not really, you could be more wrong)
And quite the contrary.
It is not OKW that is being destroyed here, OKW is being brought in line with other armies.
What is being destroyed is OKW cult and its zealous, devoted acolytes.
It really isn't, rapid fire shreks, a not shit AT gun option at T0 and ISG suppression will probably have the usual suspects back to the forum demanding blood in short order.
The buffs to USF do make me sad, I wish they payed more attention to USF's other AT options instead of just reworking the Jackson.
Zooks, Stuart, and the AT gun all need help. |
And they always have YET they werent in the A move LOL Meta. So I am glad you arent taking this hard and will Adapt. And I am sure you will be JUST as successful. So I guess we can just /thread.
I very rarely ever used Obers before, and will only rarely use them now. Not really much of a change for me. |
Balance patch notes makes OKW fanboys quit?
Can't wait how great it will be when it hits live.
Roots of OKW fanboism are dying out like flies while only enforcing everyone in conviction that these were simply players looking for easy wins on overpowered army.
Well, that time is about to end!
Your continual assertion this patch is going to destroy OKW is going to get really really funny in retrospect considering the late game and early game buffs OKW got. |
Because the Problem wasnt their ability to take out tanks Late Mid game but to shut them down early game. While being backed up by Obers to kill all the Handheld AT Counters, While getting Vet 5 and being fully immune. Then wait for the Panther for the ultimate LOL.
I could care less about Vet 5 DPS late game if they are bleeding MP white and getting their heads kicked in by AI infantry for once.
Pfuse, Falls and JLI didnt add to the cost effectivness because they lack the .7 inc acc modifier.
So I am glad Volks arent going to be useless. But I am also glad they will be bled for being stupid.
Well, uh, you might want to reconsider this line of thought because the massive increase in ROF on their shreks at Vet 5 mean they will be doing a lot more DPS. Who cares if they are not as durable? Relic claimed they wanted to deal with shreks being a little to good, but then apply a huge buff to the Volk Shrek.
Fallsch, JLI, and Pfuss have something Obers don't: utility.
EDIT: This doesn't even take into account the Rackten finally not being garbage, the more I think about it the more all in all the changes seem more like an OKW buff than a nerf. |
You all cry about Obers but I think the biggest blow OKW got is Volks nerf.
I think this change will change OKW play and its meta drastically
They actually got a huge buff. The new Vet 5 ability they get gives them a 43% increase in the ROF of their shreks and Kar98ks.
Aw look, OKW can't just blob two types of units and a-move them to victory anymore.
Thats just a damn shame an't it?
If only this were true?
fusiliers are like rifles where theyre kinda in an awkward spot where theyre better than regular infantry but worse than elites. they have a very tough time dealing with close range specialists even with g43s, and they do take awhile to vet up since they can only really damage infantry. obers on the otherhand have most of the firepower focused in one entity that lets them quickly take out models.
They are essentially just filler for your army. Flares are helpful as well.
Problem with OKW is not so much in their specific units themselves, but in the fundamental faction design, which in turn necessitates the nature of said units (Volks/Obers and their synergy) and, well, their blobbing. Try not blobbing these two types of units and a-moving - you'll have a hard time, because A: you dont have alternatives in the first place B: Your supplementary units are rarely cost effective, and typically cannot function on their own. Voilà, embrace the suck.
It really doesn't help OKW lacks any sort of MP dump in the form of support weapons or tanks resulting in the super huge float which encourages people to just pump out buttloads of infantry but only ever get 1 tank.
It's been said before, OKW needs something to bridge the gap between the lights and the heavies. |
Not really sure what would be the point of it.
Don't fix what isn't broken.
Its accuracy is completely horrible against infantry, but thats pretty much it.
As far as VS infantry goes it's fairly standard as far as the heavy tanks go. It's scatter distance is only 1.4 higher than that of the Tigers and they both have the same scatter angle. But it does have a much less harsh AoE profile making 1 shots with the IS2 more common than with the Tiger.
With 240 damage, it could wipe squads as much as the KT does thanks to doing more damage farther out.
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People are really getting worked up about these changes, you know you're doing something right if you ruffle a few feathers along the way.
Relic must have made these changes for good reason, they did say looking at their internal stats that the units they changed had been ear-marked as overperforming so what is there to get angry about?
The ruffled feathers comes mainly from the fact that it's such a vanilla and bleh change for months of waiting. The same things OKW has that were "OP" will continued to be labeled "OP".
People read that Obers got nerfed and then immediately forgot the rest of the OKW faction exists, and is still very good. |
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