There are mind games going on in every top level sport. It's an edge.
People calling for bans for the use of question marks... whatever next? Seems to me saltylink just being salty again. |
Donation links the same? LUL |
You are right, a "friend", and once upon a time a sub. Is who he told to "go fuck off and die" https://clips.twitch.tv/DeadSuaveElkEagleEye
Absolutely disgusting behaviour. I don't think it'll remain "up" for long though. Some seriously, to be frank, disturbing behaviour on stream today. |
I'm fairly sure any argument along these lines ends with the content belongs to Relic. And if it doesn't the moment Relic catches a whiff of a lawyer they'll just update their Terms of Service so it does.
Bringing lawyers into something like this is the worst possible outcome for all involved.
Nobody is going to argue about the latter part of your statement.
However, people have been spouting off that there is no legal precedent here, when there clearly is. Hans even said earlier in the thread "show me a rule that says I can't do it". Well I just did.
The tournament, the art and all associated properties belong to currahae. The footage shown on Hans channel belongs to AE. The content of the game belongs to Relic.
In the above, where does anything belong to Hans? That's right, it doesn't.
I'm sure all this can be put right, with Hans showing a bit of humility.
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Let's be honest here, there was one person who made this public.
He not only made it public, but made it a public "fuck you" to his friends by broadcasting what he did.
I've yet to see a public apology for said behaviour, just more of the same BS he spouted in his stream. Oh, saying "I shouldn't have over dubbed the stream, but the rest was fine" is no apology at all.
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There are so many misconceptions in this thread.
People seem to be ignorant of the fact that International intellectual property rights exist, and that no formal requirement is needed to register said property.
International Intellectual Property Rights Practice outlines say thus:
IV. Registration and Formalities
A. COPYRIGHT.
International norms of copyright protection require neither registration with a central depository-though registration often remains standard procedure-nor formalities such as publication or copyright notice.
Instead, protection for a term of years is effective upon tangible expression of the work
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yeah that lovely guy casting to his friends and 40 viewers
Indeed. FYI, last post july 2017... interesting that he should choose this day to come post again.
Sociopathy at its finest. |
You're objectively wrong. https://help.twitch.tv/customer/portal/articles/735191-terms-of-service
The twitch TOS explicit states that "[you have agreed that] you are the creator and owner of the User Content or otherwise have sufficient rights and authority to grant the rights granted herein" for any User Content you stream.
Hans directly restreamed the UTT stream without permission. It's in direct violation of TOS.
His whole post is wrong, from the beginning to the end. He just likes the sound of his own voice. |
*lot's of misinformed words, essentially about nothing*
Even if your statement was accurate (which it isn't), it still doesn't excuse the fact, that on a basic human level, Hans fucked over his friends (both Stormless and AE, whom he had stayed the night with) and a 3 year sub of his channel, who has literally been paying him to play games.
I'm sorry, you can write as many shit posts as you like, with 10 million words, it does not excuse this behaviour on any level.
Anyway, I'm looking forward to your "Relic has ruined my life" post coming soon. |
But you violate the rule by slandeirng someone openly?
slander
ˈslɑːndə/
nounLaw
noun: slander
1.
the action or crime of making a false spoken statement damaging to a person's reputation.
"he is suing the TV company for slander"
a false and malicious spoken statement.
plural noun: slanders
"I've had just about all I can stomach of your slanders"
synonyms: defamation, defamation of character, character assassination, misrepresentation of character, calumny, libel; More
scandalmongering, malicious gossip, muckraking, smear campaigning, disparagement, denigration, derogation, aspersions, vilification, traducement, obloquy, backbiting, scurrility;
lie, slur, smear, untruth, false accusation, false report, insult, slight;
informalmud-slinging;
informalbad-mouthing;
archaiccontumely
"he'd sue me for slander if I made the accusation publicly"
antonyms: acclamation, praise
verb
verb: slander; 3rd person present: slanders; past tense: slandered; past participle: slandered; gerund or present participle: slandering
1.
make false and damaging statements about (someone).
"they were accused of slandering the head of state"
synonyms: defame, defame someone's character, blacken someone's name, give someone a bad name, tell lies about, speak ill/evil of, drag through the mud/mire, throw/sling/fling mud at, sully someone's reputation, libel, smear, run a smear campaign against, cast aspersions on, spread scandal about, besmirch, tarnish, taint, misrepresent; More
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