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That would probably solve several problems, yes. Including OKW's sometimes chronical MP float.

The upgrades shouldn't be too powerful, however. Volks as they are have pretty decent AI power, and unlike Ostheer who needs LMGs to scale OKW has access to 2 powerful infantry in their tech, 5 if you count doctrines. At best Volks should have firepower about on par with Rifles with 1 BAR. If they want elite infantry they have a wealth of options other than Volks.

Agree.
And yes, it would probably solve the MP float problem too.
I would realy like to see how this would work in a mode, but sadly I realy have no time for building one .

Here you are, a better solution:

1. Remove shreck from volks. Instead, volks can chose one of these 2 upgrades:
a. An STG 44 for the squad leader.
b. Two g43s upgrade.

2. New OKW squad: Tank busters. A 4 man squad, buildable from Med Truck, with an expensive manpower cost and who comes with 2 shrecks by default. The expensive mp cost willprevent blobbing, and it will be fair too, because no amo will be spent on the shreck upgrade. Being expensive as mp cost, they can't be spammed and they will have a poor AI performance because they will have rifles, not automatic weapons, an additional reason not to spam them. This way, the OKW player can chose his early / medium game stage AT solution by building eather the med truck for this squad, eather the Puma tier to build a Puma.
Such units (puma or the tank busters, will most probably need a raketen to support them).

So this solution will invite OKW player not only to stop blobbing, but also used combined arms.

If you guys like this solution that was proposed before, let's support this and convince Relic to adopt it.

Why do you think the surge in OKW players means the revamp was a mistake? (I'm not saying it wasn't, I'm questioning the reason you suggested.)

I think you should take into account that there are three allied factions and only two axis factions. If there were 2 allied factions, the graph would look very different and the OKW surge would be less pronounced.


I think it's more likely to mean that people are eager to try out OKW with the changes making them stronger, I don't think that's an indication that they're overpowered. They were certainly underpowered before.


That said, it's absolutely possible that they are indeed overpowered. I just don't think that the graph is any kind of indication of that as other factors probably play the main role in the surge in OKW.

I am not saying they are UP or OP. The meta is absolutely the same, as it allways was: In 90% of games, you do good with Allies in early game, you have the first cahnce. Allies are early game advantage factions, Axis are late game advantage factions. The only exception is UKF, which was a FAILED faction because it was build in a way that broke the meta and screwed the balance. Therefore, Relic desperatley attempted to adjust them, but since the concept is a FAIL from beginning, this faction will never find its place and will never be balanced for games larger than 1v1s.
For instance, playing with Allies in 2v2 random, if I am mixed with a brit player I know in a proportion of 80% that it will be a lost game.

Comming back to OKW, I was just saying that the changes and the revamp were wrong.

First, they shouldn't have removed the OKW flavor. You know, no stock P4s, no 100% income, no conversion removal, etc. If P4 is an acceptable adition to some extent, they should not screw the initial concept: crack units, poor resources.
They could build on that ideea and I am sure they would have found the way between and they would balance the faction.

Take for instance the OKW status before the big revamp. If some little changes were done, nobody (except allied hardocre fanboys - but hey, they are allways gonna cry and life will be unfair for them for ever), would say now that OKW is OP.

I just give some examples:
- Kubel - actual status, replacing MG34. Mg34 - stock unit and a little price increase like 240 or something. No change at all for volks.
- AA buildable emplacements better health or/and receive an extra model.
- ISG actual status.
- Cheaper mines. Cheaper bobby traps.
- AA HT - no engine damage from small arms fire
- Scavange revamp. Scavanging a vehicle, gives fuel - but a little more. 8 or 10. Scavanging a weapon gives amo. Like 15 or 20.
- sturmpios actual status

And a one or two more, I even made a list somewhere but I ain't got time now to look for it. These changes were soft and were compensating the OKW weaknesses nicely, without transforming it into a hated faction - again. Dunno why instead a small risk-free step, Relic made a big and verry risky step with this faction.

And frankly, I truly believe that Ostheer had, and still has, more problems than OKW had.

Now why the heck mgs are not working properly like, I don't know, VCOH?!?
Every MG in the game should do its job.

The only sure thing is that players with AMD Cards have less problems.

This is an 100 points assertion. I noticed exactly this. Previously, I used a Gforce. Now I'm using an Ati Radeon. Game runs better than before, but still has some issues. Like you said, most Gforce series videocards don't like this game. Dunno why.