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I was asking for this from a loooong time now.
- Give them an extra model
- Increase their health
Or
- Make them more effective against infantry at least.
Something to make them worth building. |
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Agree with this.
They should use some amo costs and some vet requirements decrease. |
The is2 was made to counter tigers, panthers and king tigers. for example it could pierce the front armor of a king tiger at 800 m and the king was able to pierce the front armor of a is2 at just 500m
the is2 had a high piercing main gun so idk why in the game its a good ai and soso at it should be good at and ok ai like it historicaly was and the nickname of the is2 was the animal hunter(german tigers and panthers) some months after the deployment of the is2 on the battlefield hitler gave the direct order to all his tanks to no engage the is2 because it was 1 shoting every tank that it was facing and btw idk why it is the isu 152 that is the tank destroyer like heavy for the soviet it was made to explode position not to destroy tanks.
And a lone is2 faced 3 king tiger in southern finland and it got them all plus the king tiger had a pooor mobility so it made it a easy target. so in action eve if the king tiger have better stats like armor in action the is2 was beating all these tanks. The problem is that it have a poor at for it history and btw 3842 is2 were made and just 1300 tigers and around 462 king tiger so it should be cheaper than the tiger.
That were just real facts about the is2 and i would like to know your proposition of thing that could be adjust.
I'm a little puzzeled. So you didn't hear about that happening in Poland in '44 with 3 Tigers destroying around 20 IS2s.....okay....
Is2 had many problems and the most important were aiming and reloading. In order to reload, the crew should abbandon the sight, level the gun to be parallel with the soil, reload, then aim again! That was an important drawback and in a direct confrontation decreased its chances drastically. Also, the way that soviet projectiles "penetrate" the target.... it's not actualy penetration. The amount and quality of explosive material used for these gun projectiles tore apart the armor. It was another way to destroy it. That is why the destroyed german tanks pictures from WW2 look like big chunks of their armor are missing. At the opposite end, the german projectiles were indeed penetrating the armor and kinda explode inside. But if you say so....
Anyway, from the game point of view it appears that IS2 indeed misses to much actualy. This is the problem I see. |
the strength of the t34 is in its numbers, unlike any other medium tank. it is by far the easiest medium to amass. if you skip building any t3 units, and go straight to t4, you can get your t34s around the same time as enemy mediums, except for the fact youll be able to amass more armor than they can. youll always want to 2v1 enemy tanks, and if you trade a t34 for a panzer4, then its worth it. a okw panzer4 costs almost twice as much fuel as a t34 does. youll be able to continue amassing t34s, and your infantry wont have to worry about enemy armor. panthers usually you need to 3v1 them. if you get rear armor hits, itll go down very quickly.
but lemon, t34 cant penetrate for shit.
yes, this is true. its penetration is quite awful, thats why you need to ALL IN with your tanks. this is the scary part of using t34s. if your opponent mined the approach or has like 3 paks just chillin fog of war, things can go very poorly. however, if you have 3 tanks you can often just rush in to enemy armor to get point blank and rear armor hits. it does require some micro, so the faint of skill really shouldnt try this.
but what about shreks? well the thing is even 3 shreks will only bring a t34 down to half or so hp. and you have multiple t34s. NEVER EVER send in a t34 alone because its just food. if you have multiple, you can all in, decisively trade 1 or 2 t34s for an enemy tank, maybe crush some infantry along the way, and back out.
the best doctrines for this imo is the ones with guards, mark target, or IL2 bombing run. i believe there is one that has all 3. guards to help sustain your mid game infantry power and overwhelm axis infantry, mark target to help you quickly kill heavier armor, and bombing run to clear out pak walls or enemy trucks/fortifications as you charge forward.
as i said before, the scariest part and the one people dont understand is that you have to dive with the t34s. you cant just poke around like you do with panzer4s. you go all in, kill their armor, and run back out. trading is necessary and it WILL happen. however it is much more important to stop axis from acquiring a critical mass of armor, so the trades will be worth it.
That's exactly the way I was using them before the big soviet revamp. Being in T3 they came right in time to catch your enemy off guard if you rushed to build them. But didn't use them since then. Maybe I will give it a try again, old style like this? Sounds interesting, especialy if you said it is achievable.
A question arise though: by the time they come, aren't going to be alot of axis units on the field with pretty high experience? The strength of T34 in the past was that it came pretty soon and you had time to vet it. Now, it comes vanilla in a world of pain, populated with 2 stars stugs, maybe 3 stars pzgrenadiers, volks or so. |
Relic give Soviets T-34/76 from year 1941, to fight versus late war tanks from 1944.
For soviets, technology wasn't a problem. They compensated with numbers.
Balancewise, the '76s are quite bad, had to admit. |
Did Relic piss in your cereal bowl, or are you just mad 
No, he is such a harcore fanboy that I bet he has comrade Stalin's picture as desktop's background. |
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I will just abstain, because I can't see anywhere an option like "Hell yeah! It should!" Man, get a T-shirt with "shit happens" inscription, wear it, and get used to the idea. |
if it performs like the sexton yeah go for it
No way man, it's krupp steel, not some allied piece fo shit! Hihihi
And through this, I even quoted an allied crew member in COH2. |
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Dunno, I would say to let it at the back of your inventory. |
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Seems to me someone discovered a good combo between USF and soviets. Good for him. Time will reveal the best counter, I am sure it is around here somewhere.... |
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