Profile of Rocket

Here you go this guy only had half the map and mostly less than half the map early and mid game and still managed to field a pz4 same time as my sherman and a tiger very shortly after my first e8 and was able to call in CAS 3 times.

Examples of how the rifle nade is broken ( you cant be watching every squad on the field at one time it is impossible and you have 0 time to retreat or react unless you somehow see the tiny guy drop to a knee)

How the pz4 if anything needs a nerf especially on its vet system (pz4 is rifle naded and running away with its rear facing sherman chasing not rifle naded shooting it in the rear with its front facing rear of pz4. pz4 still wins possibly cause it vets on 2nd to last shot also never does not pen front of sherman)

How to use blitzkrieg magic escape button even though your tank should be dead from being out played.

Oh yes and how munition staved and how much tech cost hurts whermacht.

http://www.coh2.org/replay/35420/bullshit-cas/page/1#post_id339293

Squeaky Door is absolutley right, that chart only shows that very high skill players who know all the best builds to get around Werhs tecking costs can get wins with them.

I wouldnt say Werh is too UP atm, but it does struggle 1v1 at anything but the highest levels.

Slight decreases to tecking costs IMO, would just bring them in line. But of course Relic has pretty big changes planned.

Really. Using all the broken CAS tools, especially the stuka loiter that is incredibly broken or the rifle nade wipe machines or stun grenades that stop enemy infantry from there retreat and you can't win with them?

I don't play axis much no secret, but I play against them. Try this make gren blobs, make more gren blobs, get double paks, choose commander with stuka loiter and tiger tank. Paks follow around the tiger at all times. Let tiger and gren blobs wipe opposing infantry. Click stukka loiter on any jacksons or any thing else that stands a small chance at killing or flanking your tiger. Win. My least fav strat to play against.

Also its not volks that are problem here, its the shrecks on them, this always was the problem and always will be, OKW muni penalty is irrelevant as all it does it set the time of first shreck, all of them will end up carrying one anyway over the course of the game and best AT weapon on cheapest, easily sustainable and excellently scaling squad was an invitation for balance problem.

Agreed. My idea is to give them something similar to the PTRS that is not as effective as the shrek is on later armor but is on light vehicles and does mild dmg to shermans etc. Like a Panzerbüchse 39 or Solothurn S-18/1000. Would make sense to me.

I really never see a mark IV come out that much later than a sherman. Even when the sherman does you have these things called shreks that wreck it and at guns that can kill it in two or 3 hits? And yes I know you can kite the shreks but it only takes two shrek hits for me to retreat my tank not like in the 2-4 minuted it has by its self it is going to run around wiping half the map or close to it.

IMO t-34 (need a buff) is trash right now and a bit over priced it is really only good for fighting light vehicles and crushing infantry and maybe on a rare occasion ramming. Even if it gets behind tigers in groups it still sucks.

Sherman (Balanced) - HE rounds can be great or really bad I am not a stat guy but it seems to me HE misses ALL THE TIME. Sure every now and then it does something amazing like 1 hitting a squad. Often times I find it better just to keep the armor pen active as over all it seems to be more accurate and sometimes feels that it does better gibing infantry than the HE missing 10 times in a row or just not causing any dmg to the squad its attacking. Plus a p4 showing up out of no where can really screw you when you have to switch shells. It works way better crushing infantry and that is so much more fun.

Pz4 (Tiny nerf to AI) - Higher priced like it should be but better tank. Superior to the 34/76 and has a edge over the sherman especially vetted and upgraded with skirts it scales way better later and easily beats regular shermans then. Can have great escape/surviveability with blitzkreig/smoke.

The thing that pisses me off about the p4 though is the insane amount of damage it seems to do to infantry and consistent wipes especially with say 2 pz4s. It by far does more dmg with its guns to infantry than the sherman does with HE (cause it misses all the time or just dosen't seem to do anything with the chance of a miracle) or AP or the 34/76 for that matter. No problem with it at all other than I think it needs a tiny nerf to infantry dmg. Same goes with the long barreled stug, that thing is suppose to be an AT version but does the same thing to infantry as well high gib rates and squad wipes. Especially when the zook sucks this makes it pretty hard on USF to deal with a lot of pz4s or stug rushes.

Thanks for your replays.

Cookiezandcream - you're right - no thopsons but the point is still valid. It's too much in one - and either this or more raw power. Many players just don't understand what it means to retreat two units (tank+pio)to make repairs. Field presence goes down too much for too long, especially when your opponent just drives back to safety and the crew repairs the vehicle themselves.
Rocket - remember that losing pios while repairing is even bigger manpower drain. Plus the fact that even pios can't repair crits. And repairing a vehicle too close to frontline is basically the player's mistake/conscious risk. More often I saw bazooka crew fininshing off scoutcars after being almost destroyed by them.
I still don't think smoke or blitz should be nerfed before real, especially early game, US "get out of jail abilities" get nerfed too. It's just my opinion.

I don't really see the m20 with the zook crew as a "get out of jail card" it is going to set a USF player back quite a bit from the fuel and losing it too early is quite a risk if it doesen't do work to justify it. It having the zook crew is really the only hard counter USF have early on to kubel and scout cars, but we pay for it. I mean it is vulnerable to all the other things scout cars are and when decrewed with the zook crew they are vulnerable to any infantry. Perhaps there is other "get out jail cards" but you didn't list any?

I just do not see it the same it is just one unit we are talking about an ability all your tanks have or can have.